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moparisthebest
jonas’, Sam, how to delete these? https://xmpp.org/registrar/compress.html https://xmpp.org/registrar/alt-connections.html :)
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Neustradamus
moparisthebest: It is not up-to-date since several years, it is linked to: https://github.com/xsf/registrar/issues/31 + https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/issues/422 I have informed that it is very very old: "Last Updated: 2011-02-22".
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Ge0rG
jonas’: making PRs would imply that if know what the right values are
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flow
does one really delete registry entires? I'd expect that they stay registered forever for documentation purposed (but potentially get marked accordingly)✎ -
flow
does one really delete registry entires? I'd expect that they stay registered forever for documentation purposes (but potentially get marked accordingly) ✏
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MattJ
I agree, for the same reason we don't delete XEPs
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jonas’
+1
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Ge0rG
MattJ: can you make use of https://op-co.de/tmp/namespacemap.txt for jabber.org?
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Ge0rG
I'm still not sure what to do with the anomalies (which I've excluded from this list)
- Ge0rG closes seventeen XEP tabs now, for XEPs that he hasn't looked at ever or at least in many years
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MattJ
Ge0rG: yes, I think so. I will look at it very soon (next day or two), it should be an easy copy/paste/reload job
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Ge0rG
MattJ: awesome, thanks.
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Ge0rG
I hope somebody else is going to give the list a look. My first heuristic was to link to the XEP that has the most mentions of the namespace, but that didn't work out well
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Ge0rG
Instead I used the earliest XEP number that mentions the namespace, had a bunch of false positives like '30 that mention too many things, fixed them manually
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jonas’
perfect is the enemy of good
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Ge0rG
Maybe we could add an XML tag to the XEPs that contains all the namespaces defined within that XEP
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Neustradamus
There are 2 problems here too: - https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/issues/421 (redirections do not work) - https://github.com/xsf/xep-attic/issues/3 (a lot of missing)
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rion
> I feel like for people in russia who are chatting with people from abroad, now is possibly a good time to activate disappearing messages when talking about certain topics / naming certain events I always thought it's helpful while cheating wifes or something like this. But damn politics everywhere.
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Neustradamus
rion: yes!
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Ge0rG
rion: I've argued before, that the xmpp ecosystem, as currently implemented, is by far not the smartest choice for people with a risk of being killed by their government.
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Ellenor Malik
require e2ee, store as little as possible
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jonas’
Ge0rG, but is that a reason to not improve it in that direction?
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Ge0rG
jonas’: no. All we need is a decade and an army of security specialists.
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moparisthebest
jonas’, flow MattJ but if no XEPs point to those registries anymore, why keep them around ? Isn't it just confusing?
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Ge0rG
moparisthebest: if nothing points there, it's only relevant for the legacy users anyway
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moparisthebest
they are security issues, there shouldn't be legacy users
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MattJ
Better to update the registry to clarify that, than just remove it
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Ge0rG
moparisthebest: well. where should I start?
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moparisthebest
I'd be ok updating the registry to clarify that too...
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moparisthebest
the compression one is still pointed to by obsoleted XEPs, so I get keeping it and updating it, the DNS entry one isn't pointed to by any XEP (it was removed from '156) so it's pretty confusing to keep it at all I think ?
- Ge0rG is currently in the middle of a world-wide project that's rolling out mifare classic cards (known insecure since 2008) for security purposes, and they aren't even using the known-insecure security properties of these cards.
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MattJ
moparisthebest, we still keep old versions of XEPs around
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MattJ
I think the right thing to do is simply note that certain registries/entries are not to be used for whatever reason
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moparisthebest
so how do I add a note to registries then? :)
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Ge0rG
moparisthebest: you need to fix the registry deployment
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moparisthebest
I thought Sam was doing that? :D
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Holger
In case anyone's interested, goffi is giving a talk on bridging XMPP with ActivityPub *now*: https://meet.in-berlin.de/XMPP-ActivityPubGateway
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junaid
Holger, will there be a recording?
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Holger
I don't think so, sorry.
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emus
Hi folks, reminder to take the chance to talk and present at our XMPP Office Hours! https://xmpp.org/community/officehours/ and have a look at xmpp.work too!