XSF Discussion - 2022-03-12

> Interesting https://prav.app/ cc Daniel , also maybe newsletter material? But why?

prav app only for India. I wish Indonesia have too

but you can just use Quicksy.im

I guess the difference is democratic management?

We have democracy at home

At least they are not making a New Chat Protocol ™

The cooperative aspect of it is a big plus. Also if its india focused maybe they can do also better outreach. For india by indians kind of thing.

yeah, considering how watsapp in India is apparently _the_ mode of communication, they need better xmpp "marketing" than most other countries

Either way more decentralization is good

Does 447 deprecate 385? I can't quite see why you'd need SIMS if SFS worked?

Or rather, "would", since they're both experimental

A/B testing

Seems like a strict improvement to me

Post yesterday was quite a success I would say

Ah https://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/standards/2021-July/038413.html

https://qtox.github.io/blog/2022/02/15/full-time.html > Larger, less certain goals include: > A dedicated easy to set-up daemon that allows messages to always be delivered. > Multi-device support, for one ID to have shared friends and shared history.

Is this an unwritten rule of the internet? All P2P chat protocols expand until they add servers and reinvent XMPP poorly?

Not only p2p! See IRC bouncers...

True

In IRC's defense it pre-dated XMPP

Right. Btw, afaiu, Jami has multi-device support independent from servers... But not really sure.

Jami has servers too https://jami.net/why-is-jami-truly-distributed/

servers isnt really related to multi device ✏

^

you need servers because mobiles suck

Right