XSF Discussion - 2022-03-21

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MattJ 09:49:02
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30746374 > I was reverse engineering my microwave a few years ago and couldn't MITM on XMPP because of the TLS
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jonas’ 09:51:24
*blink*
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emus 10:13:48
MattJ: can you explain for me a bit more 😅
emus 10:13:57
they blame xmpp again?
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mjk 10:51:38
The microwave was verifying certs? o.o
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jonas’ 10:52:11
well, microwaves do have things which transmit on the 2.4 GHz band anyway. making them networked was the obvious next step! /s
Ge0rG 10:54:20
Nothing wrong with modulating your wifi signal on the magnetron. Two-for-one long-range wifi and bird-killer!
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jonas’ 10:55:04
not just birds I suppose
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Ge0rG 10:57:08
fry your pi(e)?
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rubi 14:08:25
w-why does the microwave use xmpp
Zash 14:08:56
more importantly, what did the microwave say to the vacuum cleaner?
MattJ 14:09:03
So it can communicate with the vacuum cleaner
MattJ 14:09:10
^5 Zash
edhelas 14:09:20
because I prefer to use XML to heat my pasta than JSON
mathieui 14:09:35
If you buy """smart""" appliances they have a need to communicate, and from there you can only pick your poison
rubi 14:09:45
mmm xml flavor is my favorite
Ge0rG 14:09:54
my vacuum cleaner has a nodejs web server deployed locally that does HTTP-REST-JSON :(
edhelas 14:10:23
can't wait for the Matrix Fridge, I heard that it's the coolest protocol in town 😏
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rubi 14:14:51
modern and superior refrigerator
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i hope it doesn't stop working from low disk space
edhelas 14:16:41
at least the fridge can cool down the CPU :p
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emus 15:00:08
you should as the UWPX dev who connected his coffee machine to xmpp to get him a coffee on request
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mjk 15:10:57
Bifrost: coming soon to the refrigerator near you
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Ge0rG 15:22:42
now I wonder if there is a brand of refrigerator with "bi-frost"
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stpeter 15:54:17
Someone contacted me about potentially creating an email discussion list on xmpp.org for German-speaking developers and users (kind of like "jdev-de"). Do we think there might be enough interest in this to host it?
stpeter 15:55:11
More concretely, if we did host it, would anyone here volunteer to help administer it?
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moparisthebest 16:24:51
I love XMPP but I don't want any of my appliances speaking it... Or anything at all
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Ellenor Malik 17:28:37
If your appliances must network, how?
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moparisthebest 17:29:55
they MUST NOT network
mjk 17:30:23
(unless they SHOULD :D)
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moparisthebest 17:30:56
no, never :P
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mjk 17:33:33
okay.jpeg
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emus 17:52:34
FYI Tinyletter: Replace with simple maillist https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/issues/1110
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emus 20:14:32
I mean if there are not responses or vetos I will go ahead soon
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