XSF Discussion - 2022-03-30


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  94. moparisthebest https://github.com/moparisthebest/xmpp-proxy/blob/master/contrib/host-meta/xep-0156-proposed-minimal.json here is the tweaked proposal that is now implemented in xmpp-proxy and running on xmpp:xmpp-proxy@code.moparisthe.best?join changes from last time: per MattJ 's suggestion, alpn was kinda strange, https-svc uses it to determine protocol, like h3 means quic, h2 means means h2-over-tls-over-tcp etc, we already have the "protocol" info at the rel= level, and I planned on quic alpn matching direct-tls alpn (xmpp-client and xmpp-server), so this has been removed for non-https protocols (so it stays for websocket) let me know if anyone has suggestions, I'll start writing 3 XEPs soon, this discovery (probably try to update xep-0156), xmpp-over-quic, xmpp-s2s-over-websocket
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  158. wurstsalat Neustradamus: there is no "import of previous newsletter issues" at the mailing list. Previous issues can be read at xmpp.org
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  172. Link Mauve moparisthebest, instead of a XEP, I think a RFC might be more suitable, given what you extend is a RFC in the first place.
  173. Link Mauve You can start from RFC6415, modify it, and publish a new one obsoleting the prior version?
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  219. emus > wurstsalat escribió: > Neustradamus: there is no "import of previous newsletter issues" at the mailing list. Previous issues can be read at xmpp.org And that is what I have referenced in the invitation
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  475. moparisthebest Link Mauve, lots of things that should be RFCs start out as XEPs, some stay XEPs forever, might as well start out with the process I know :)
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  478. Maranda moparisthebest: so something along the lines of Metre but for c2s too?
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  484. moparisthebest ish? xmpp-proxy basically lets your client or server simply connect to a TCP port and start sending stanzas, without worrying about srv/tls/posh/dane/etc
  485. moparisthebest and all the directions, outgoing c2s+s2s, incoming s2s, with sasl external
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  498. Maranda iirc Metre did that for S2S
  499. Maranda anyhow ok
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  503. moparisthebest metre looks like it has some routing too, xmpp-proxy will never have that, it doesn't even parse XML, also it supports quic+websockets in addition to the normal things
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  536. Kev Maranda - if you're describing the X2X feature (zero-handshake S2S), it's https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0361.html and M-Link supported it for donkey's years, but that's not what xmpp-proxy is doing, I believe.
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  546. moparisthebest no, but QUIC or TLS with 0-rtt handshake should be *almost* as quick as that, and usable on the federated network
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  555. Maranda Kev: i more meant the: S2S <-> S2S proxying
  556. Maranda Not any XEP in particular
  557. Kev 361's meant for the sorts of connectivity that make mobiles look stable, and it does pretty well at that, but it's obviously no use at all for the public network :)
  558. Kev Maranda: Right. Steve calls that "XMPP Trunking", which seems a fair name for it.
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