XSF Discussion - 2022-04-01

  1. mjk

    Does anyone care to fix one client's DOAP url? It points to a text/html document: https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/blob/master/data/clients.json#L443 Sould be https://codeberg.org/Arne/monocles_chat/raw/branch/master/monocles_chat.doap Scanned with: `curl -sSL https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/raw/master/data/clients.json | egrep -o '[^"]+\.doap' | xargs curl -IL | grep -i content-type:`

  2. Guus

    done, tx

  3. mjk


  4. moparisthebest

    So is everyone going to implement this right away? https://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/standards/2022-April/038795.html / https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0464.html

  5. mjk

    cookies? in my xmpp??? > 2022-03-31 so close :))

  6. moparisthebest

    That's fine since it's a normal standards track XEP and definitely not an April fool's joke

  7. mjk

    yep. Probably would be of most benefit to browser clients (browsers having the biggest cross-site section area)

  8. Guus

    isn't that a Keepass database, or am I decoding it wrong?

  9. moparisthebest

    Guus: hehe possibly, or just look at it with less or something

  10. Guus

    Ah, I missed that tar cz

  11. Guus


  12. Guus shakes angry fist

  13. moparisthebest

    you're welcome

  14. mjk

    so, this seems to implement WebRCE as a bonus, nice!

  15. moparisthebest

    mjk, also browser clients will have a harder time implementing this as they normally can't run javascript as root

  16. Guus

    I fault council for not flagging this when promoting the XEP. ohwait...

  17. moparisthebest

    Guus, it's not a bug it's a feature!

  18. mjk

    > browser clients will have a harder time implementing this Right. But at least cross-site tracking is most potent there

  19. moparisthebest

    yea this brings that important feature to XMPP

  20. moparisthebest

    I've posted it on HN for you HN lurkers (this is only my second HN post)

  21. mjk

    emus: any chance to twit the new xep?

  22. emus

    mjk: can you prepare as I did the last one?

  23. mjk

    emus: uh, I'll try

  24. mjk

    A new #XEP has been published recently: XEP-0464: Cookies This is the first specification published as part of the effort to get #XMPP up to speed with modern tech and make it Web-friendly. Author: Travis Burtrum https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0464.html Info: https://xmpp.org/extensions/ #web #specifications

  25. mjk

    Mostly a copy-paste of the previous one, feel free to amend :) Cc emus, moparisthebest

  26. moparisthebest

    looks good to me

  27. mjk


  28. emus

    mjk: thats perfectly done and as expected

  29. emus

    But general question: Shall we advertise this way? (last time people were making fun we standardise this message reply) are there other recent new xeps?

  30. Zash

    Hmm, XEP Highlight of the Week?

  31. Zash

    emus, all talk about XMPP is good talk!

  32. mjk

    Heheh, this ↑

  33. mjk

    But yeah, there were two other xeps published since the last tweet, so maybe turn this into some sort of highlight of the <period/>

  34. mjk

    Orrr highlight them later

  35. mjk

    This one is urgent, after all

  36. moparisthebest

    emus, yea this one needs published today

  37. moparisthebest

    preferably alone :P

  38. mjk

    It's already April 2nd in some partsof the world...

  39. emus

    > Zash escribiΓ³: > Hmm, XEP Highlight of the Week? > emus, all talk about XMPP is good talk! πŸ˜‚ Okay, but you guys catch the people in the comment line politely, alright?

  40. emus

    mjk: Ah its an April joke

  41. emus

    We have really time to put resources in this :D

  42. emus

    Is it?

  43. mjk

    Well, the xep is from March...

  44. emus

    mjk, moparisthebest: I will post it. such suggestion on interesting developments are really appreciated in the future. I sometimes dont know what good to tweet about (or not)

  45. mjk


  46. emus

    ah, my client is not catching up all MAM, can you post the tweet again here? mjk or Pm

  47. emus

    ah, my client is not catching up all MAM, can you post the tweet again here? mjk or PM

  48. mjk


  49. emus


  50. emus

    Ha - that late noone will realize its a joke!!1!

  51. mjk

    > Ha - that late noone will realize its a joke!!1! That's kinda what I fear as well, but don't think it'd cause any grief

  52. emus

    You guys will help the people πŸ˜€

  53. emus

    Fun: https://fosstodon.org/@xmpp/108058245120853596 https://twitter.com/xmpp/status/1509962024285057029

  54. emus

    Three new followers already - success!

  55. emus

    πŸ˜€ https://fosstodon.org/web/@SkyfaR@social.levelxstudios.org/108058258979321381

  56. mjk


  57. mjk

    Hooray, we did it. What have we done?..

  58. moparisthebest

    people in california are just barely waking up right now :P

  59. moparisthebest

    nice emus & mjk good work

  60. mjk

    Yup, that "where the xsf is registered" handwave

  61. moparisthebest

    no it's 2:46pm where the xsf is registered, but still 11:46pm in california

  62. moparisthebest

    either way plenty early enough

  63. mjk


  64. moparisthebest

    uh 11:46am in california*

  65. mjk

    Right (I can into timezones, sometimes)

  66. moparisthebest

    I can't, obviously

  67. mjk

    I like how there's already a thread at fosstodon, and crickets&tumbleweeds at twitter

  68. mjk

    Clearly twitter needs that federation juice

  69. emus

    ^^ Twitter is usually low on response even we have more follower

  70. emus

    people are sick from twitter

  71. emus

    Dear Board, due to lag of time and in agreement with Ge0rG I would take over the role as the German contact for the goverment evaluation (BKA). Would that be okay for you? Of course, I would keep him in the loop. Other volunteers especially for technical details are invited if they did not yet have another role in that regard. I would especially look for expertise on the MLS encryption topic. No matter if you speak German (but English ☺). It would be necessary to at least provide info on status, advantages and general information what it is. No technical details I think. Good night MattJ ralphm jcbrand arc

  72. Ge0rG


  73. ralphm

    I think that's fine. Suggesting you check with dwd for MLS.

  74. emus

    > Ge0rG escribiΓ³: > *lack I knew it πŸ™ˆ

  75. emus

    dwd, let me know if you are interested

  76. Ge0rG

    emus: whoops, I totally didn't realize that this was the public post and not the private draft πŸ˜’

  77. emus

    all good, legitamite