XSF Discussion - 2022-04-01

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11:42:01 mjk Does anyone care to fix one client's DOAP url? It points to a text/html document: https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/blob/master/data/clients.json#L443 Sould be https://codeberg.org/Arne/monocles_chat/raw/branch/master/monocles_chat.doap Scanned with: `curl -sSL https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/raw/master/data/clients.json | egrep -o '[^"]+\.doap' | xargs curl -IL | grep -i content-type:`
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11:47:22 Guus done, tx
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11:48:28 mjk 👍👍
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12:34:55 moparisthebest So is everyone going to implement this right away? https://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/standards/2022-April/038795.html / https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0464.html
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12:38:54 mjk cookies? in my xmpp??? > 2022-03-31 so close :))
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12:45:10 moparisthebest That's fine since it's a normal standards track XEP and definitely not an April fool's joke
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12:49:49 mjk yep. Probably would be of most benefit to browser clients (browsers having the biggest cross-site section area)
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12:53:28 Guus isn't that a Keepass database, or am I decoding it wrong?
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13:07:02 moparisthebest Guus: hehe possibly, or just look at it with less or something
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13:09:18 Guus Ah, I missed that tar cz
13:09:19 Guus also
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13:10:00 moparisthebest you're welcome
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13:22:41 mjk so, this seems to implement WebRCE as a bonus, nice!
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13:36:47 moparisthebest mjk, also browser clients will have a harder time implementing this as they normally can't run javascript as root
13:37:24 Guus I fault council for not flagging this when promoting the XEP. ohwait...
13:38:18 moparisthebest Guus, it's not a bug it's a feature!
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13:47:44 mjk > browser clients will have a harder time implementing this Right. But at least cross-site tracking is most potent there
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13:56:46 moparisthebest yea this brings that important feature to XMPP
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14:00:27 moparisthebest I've posted it on HN for you HN lurkers (this is only my second HN post)
14:01:40 mjk emus: any chance to twit the new xep?
14:02:15 emus mjk: can you prepare as I did the last one?
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14:04:34 mjk emus: uh, I'll try
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14:25:44 mjk A new #XEP has been published recently: XEP-0464: Cookies This is the first specification published as part of the effort to get #XMPP up to speed with modern tech and make it Web-friendly. Author: Travis Burtrum https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0464.html Info: https://xmpp.org/extensions/ #web #specifications
14:26:16 mjk Mostly a copy-paste of the previous one, feel free to amend :) Cc emus, moparisthebest
14:26:59 moparisthebest looks good to me
14:27:28 mjk Thx
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15:43:59 emus mjk: thats perfectly done and as expected
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15:45:25 emus But general question: Shall we advertise this way? (last time people were making fun we standardise this message reply) are there other recent new xeps?
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15:53:05 Zash Hmm, XEP Highlight of the Week?
15:53:25 Zash emus, all talk about XMPP is good talk!
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15:56:30 mjk Heheh, this ↑
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15:57:54 mjk But yeah, there were two other xeps published since the last tweet, so maybe turn this into some sort of highlight of the <period/>
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16:00:42 mjk Orrr highlight them later
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16:01:05 mjk This one is urgent, after all
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16:19:31 moparisthebest emus, yea this one needs published today
16:19:57 moparisthebest preferably alone :P
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17:05:04 mjk It's already April 2nd in some partsof the world...
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17:43:42 emus > Zash escribió: > Hmm, XEP Highlight of the Week? > emus, all talk about XMPP is good talk! 😂 Okay, but you guys catch the people in the comment line politely, alright?
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17:44:04 emus mjk: Ah its an April joke
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17:44:27 emus We have really time to put resources in this :D
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17:45:00 emus Is it?
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17:45:36 mjk Well, the xep is from March...
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17:52:13 emus mjk, moparisthebest: I will post it. such suggestion on interesting developments are really appreciated in the future. I sometimes dont know what good to tweet about (or not)
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18:21:00 emus ~~ah, my client is not catching up all MAM, can you post the tweet again here? mjk or Pm~~ ✎
18:21:04 emus ah, my client is not catching up all MAM, can you post the tweet again here? mjk or PM ✏
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18:22:27 emus 👍️
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18:25:31 emus Ha - that late noone will realize its a joke!!1!
18:28:53 mjk > Ha - that late noone will realize its a joke!!1! That's kinda what I fear as well, but don't think it'd cause any grief
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18:29:45 emus You guys will help the people 😀
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18:33:27 emus Fun: https://fosstodon.org/@xmpp/108058245120853596 https://twitter.com/xmpp/status/1509962024285057029
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18:35:13 emus Three new followers already - success!
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18:36:56 emus 😀 https://fosstodon.org/web/@SkyfaR@social.levelxstudios.org/108058258979321381
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18:41:19 mjk Hah
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18:41:51 mjk Hooray, we did it. What have we done?..
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18:44:13 moparisthebest people in california are just barely waking up right now :P
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18:45:55 moparisthebest nice emus & mjk good work
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18:46:20 mjk Yup, that "where the xsf is registered" handwave
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18:47:11 moparisthebest no it's 2:46pm where the xsf is registered, but still 11:46pm in california
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18:47:19 moparisthebest either way plenty early enough
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18:50:58 mjk Oh
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18:52:01 moparisthebest uh 11:46am in california*
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18:52:35 mjk Right (I can into timezones, sometimes)
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18:57:45 moparisthebest I can't, obviously
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19:01:20 mjk I like how there's already a thread at fosstodon, and crickets&tumbleweeds at twitter
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19:01:34 mjk Clearly twitter needs that federation juice
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19:02:16 emus ^^ Twitter is usually low on response even we have more follower
19:02:25 emus people are sick from twitter
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21:15:26 emus Dear Board, due to lag of time and in agreement with Ge0rG I would take over the role as the German contact for the goverment evaluation (BKA). Would that be okay for you? Of course, I would keep him in the loop. Other volunteers especially for technical details are invited if they did not yet have another role in that regard. I would especially look for expertise on the MLS encryption topic. No matter if you speak German (but English ☺). It would be necessary to at least provide info on status, advantages and general information what it is. No technical details I think. Good night MattJ ralphm jcbrand arc
21:16:27 Ge0rG *lack
21:16:46 ralphm I think that's fine. Suggesting you check with dwd for MLS.
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21:19:47 emus > Ge0rG escribió: > *lack I knew it 🙈
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21:20:11 emus dwd, let me know if you are interested
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21:26:43 Ge0rG emus: whoops, I totally didn't realize that this was the public post and not the private draft 😒
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21:31:18 emus all good, legitamite
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