XSF Discussion - 2022-05-08

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emus 12:21:40
@board: I saw a Froscon post in jdev. Do we want to be there? I would say yes
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nuron 12:51:25
Hi, i wonder that the newsletter was put to my junk folder by my rspamd. Here are some more details, maybe someone is able to fix it?
nuron 12:51:47
https://upload.shreddox.eu/9dbc5073608c2694cd6293fc73286189dceaa679/ACaM05DoLLyIlfNjl4Z6lQuzW9rY1KJwNAviw6FW/Screenshot_20220508_145143.png
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nuron 12:52:04
(The details of the march newsletter which was rejected completely)
nuron 12:52:25
https://upload.shreddox.eu/9dbc5073608c2694cd6293fc73286189dceaa679/fhwkZRzGkYEWy1Rzo4SdxbTGCVBQEUlsO7ldQWd5/Screenshot_20220508_145222.png
nuron 12:52:43
This are the details of the april newsletter 🙂
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moparisthebest 13:09:35
It's sending from protonmail ?
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MattJ 13:23:47
From protonmail via newsletter@xmpp.org (mailman). DKIM is basically expected to fail, as I understand it.
MattJ 13:23:58
(with this approach)
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mdosch 13:42:24
nuron: You can teach your rspamd which mails are no spam.
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nuron 13:43:08
Sure mdosch but this would only effect my single rspamd, not all the other spam filters out there 🙂
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mdosch 13:44:10
Mine didn't put it in Spam. 🙂
nuron 13:44:28
But dkim failed as well?
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nuron 13:44:58
which score did the mail reached?
mdosch 13:45:54
Yes > ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mail.mdosch.de; dkim=fail ("body hash did not verify") header.d=protonmail.com header.s=protonmail2 header.b=eTxAp8On; spf=pass (mail.mdosch.de: domain of newsletter-bounces@xmpp.org designates 208.68.163.215 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=newsletter-bounces@xmpp.org > Authentication-Results: mail.mdosch.de; dkim=fail ("body hash did not verify") header.d=protonmail.com header.s=protonmail2 header.b=eTxAp8On; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (strict)" header.from=protonmail.com (policy=quarantine); spf=pass (mail.mdosch.de: domain of newsletter-bounces@xmpp.org designates 208.68.163.215 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=newsletter-bounces@xmpp.org > X-Spamd-Bar: /
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Zash 13:47:37
DKIM and mailing lists don't mix
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nuron 13:50:10
What about dmarc?
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Holger 13:51:53
> DKIM and mailing lists don't mix The list basically just needs to stop messing with the subject, no?
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Zash 13:52:18
And with the body
Zash 13:52:41
i.e. it needs to stop adding the footer
Zash 13:53:10
OR strip existing DKIM headers
Zash 13:53:18
optionally adding its own
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Holger 13:59:20
Yeah.
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Thanks, yes what zash & mattj said above reminds me of the discussion the last time
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> <Holger> > DKIM and mailing lists don't mix > > The list basically just needs to stop messing with the subject, no? With whatever field that's provided for signing actually
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You can choose what to include into the signature
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> https://upload.shreddox.eu/9dbc5073608c2694cd6293fc73286189dceaa679/ACaM05DoLLyIlfNjl4Z6lQuzW9rY1KJwNAviw6FW/Screenshot_20220508_145143.png > (The details of the march newsletter which was rejected completely) > https://upload.shreddox.eu/9dbc5073608c2694cd6293fc73286189dceaa679/fhwkZRzGkYEWy1Rzo4SdxbTGCVBQEUlsO7ldQWd5/Screenshot_20220508_145222.png > This are the details of the april newsletter 🙂 So it got even more broken? xD I wonder if some of my incompetent suggestions got implemented
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Ah, no, I misread the first screenshot
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