XSF Discussion - 2022-05-16


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  314. emus Its May the 15th - a good time to consider adding your news to the online pad for the next XMPP Newsletter - I apologize, the draft PR is not yet open. 🙈 https://yopad.eu/p/xmpp-newsletter-365days
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  652. goffi Hi, what is the policy/good practice for gateway regarding default e2e encryption? I'm translating direct message from ActivityPub to XMPP, however AP doesn't manage e2e encryption. I can encrypt in the gateway, but this would give a false sense of security to the user. Are we missing some XEP to indicate that a message can't be encrypted or an entity can't handle encryption?
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  655. Ge0rG not publishing keys is probably the equivalent of "doesn't support encryption"
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  657. goffi Probably, I hope that modern clients play well in this case.
  658. pep. The only supported e2ee mechanism on gateways currently is probably OTR
  659. pep. Unfortunately popular clients removed support for it :P
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  666. goffi pep.: in my specific case, I doubt that any AP implementation does implement OTR
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  675. pep. It doesn't seem that crazy, and you don't have control over it as the gateway anyway so you can't really prevent it
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  677. pep. I mean unless you explicitely temper with message contents
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  684. goffi pep.: it doesn't sound crazy. But generally speaking, in current usage I see, AP is for more or less public content. If you want privacy, you'll better use something else in parallel, like XMPP.
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  687. pep. Aren't there e2ee implementations already in AP-world?
  688. menel Inline PGP would be simple and would work.
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  690. menel And would be ugly for non compatible clients .. And the length limit of mastodon characters...😀
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  692. menel Better don't use 4096 rsa
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  707. moparisthebest Only weak mastodon servers have sad character limits, good pleroma servers have good limits :)
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  719. Zash How can they be weak when they hold up under the DDoS invoked when publishing a post?
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