XSF Discussion - 2022-06-12


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  525. lovetox the whole timeorderer UUID thing that is now standardised, would this not be a good time to think about if we could use this as a MAM extension?
  526. lovetox or maybe first think about if this can be of use in xmpp
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  530. lovetox since i know mam, i would wish that mam messages had some kind of ordering that does not depend of the order it is received
  531. lovetox something i can write to a database, and simply sort on that
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  533. lovetox its non trivial to sync a archive to harddisk, while keeping the order, while allowing to only sync parts and not the whole archive
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  537. MattJ lovetox: I think it's too late to mandate sortable IDs. Would it be useful if it was optional but the server indicates that sortable IDs were in use?
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  543. singpolyma Are there even IDs?
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  546. lovetox hm .. as messasges from different archives never mix in the same chat, i would simply store the feature beside the archive , and would know to treat this differently
  547. lovetox but the question would be if already active archives ever could switch
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  549. lovetox probably not
  550. lovetox or they could if they have not a "forever" retention
  551. lovetox hm .. no that would be no good, if i have the messages on the harddisk and suddenly the server feature changes
  552. lovetox there is probably no upgrade path here
  553. lovetox singpolyma, what do you mean, of course we have MAM IDs
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  583. edhelas https://support.google.com/talk/?hl=en
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  608. moparisthebest Huh I thought that happened years ago
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  622. TheCoffeMaker I even thoght it was before 2017 🤷
  623. singpolyma My dad has been using it still
  624. Zash They've been shutting down bits and pieces. Federation is long gone, but it worked for a long time after it was supposed to be turned off.
  625. singpolyma They're shutting down password auth on basically ball their apis, which is probably what this is
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