XSF Discussion - 2022-06-27

message retraction is complicated

if it only were client to client, it would be more of a user choice

It is client to client though.

nope not if the server supports it

then suddenly its not the clients choice anymore, rather the server decides which messages it deletes from MAM and in what timeframe

server support is optional tho?

and it gets more complicated, if client and servers have different timeframes etc

actually my first idea is to remove server support for that

like i dont see why we would need that

its also weird to let a remote instance controle messages in your server archive

lovetox, the reason for server to be optionally involved, is if it wants to actually remove the messages from the archive, instead of keeping them forever alongside the retraction.

but you cant choose Link Mauve ...

if the server supports it, i send you 50 retractions, the server will not ask you if you want them gone from the archive

they are just gone

Did the jabber.org cert expire?

It did

lovetox, the server admin wanted that.

If not they wouldn’t have enabled it.

and which server admin would make that decision?! and why?

the ones who enable every module they can find?

only the ones that make the checkmark green or the % go up !

let me tell you about XEP-0258 and that green check mark in Gajim ;)

oh... oh no https://quicwg.org/quic-v2/draft-ietf-quic-v2.html

actually it's fine, just trying valiantly to avoid middleboxes breaking everything in the future... good luck