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  511. lovetox message retraction is complicated
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  513. lovetox if it only were client to client, it would be more of a user choice
  514. Link Mauve It is client to client though.
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  517. lovetox nope not if the server supports it
  518. lovetox then suddenly its not the clients choice anymore, rather the server decides which messages it deletes from MAM and in what timeframe
  519. Zash server support is optional tho?
  520. lovetox and it gets more complicated, if client and servers have different timeframes etc
  521. lovetox actually my first idea is to remove server support for that
  522. lovetox like i dont see why we would need that
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  524. lovetox its also weird to let a remote instance controle messages in your server archive
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  527. Link Mauve lovetox, the reason for server to be optionally involved, is if it wants to actually remove the messages from the archive, instead of keeping them forever alongside the retraction.
  528. lovetox but you cant choose Link Mauve ...
  529. lovetox if the server supports it, i send you 50 retractions, the server will not ask you if you want them gone from the archive
  530. lovetox they are just gone
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  532. Guus Did the jabber.org cert expire?
  533. Zash It did
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  536. Link Mauve lovetox, the server admin wanted that.
  537. Link Mauve If not they wouldn’t have enabled it.
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  540. lovetox and which server admin would make that decision?! and why?
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  542. Zash the ones who enable every module they can find?
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  559. moparisthebest only the ones that make the checkmark green or the % go up !
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  566. wurstsalat let me tell you about XEP-0258 and that green check mark in Gajim ;)
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  594. moparisthebest oh... oh no https://quicwg.org/quic-v2/draft-ietf-quic-v2.html
  595. moparisthebest actually it's fine, just trying valiantly to avoid middleboxes breaking everything in the future... good luck
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