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16:23:31 lovetox
message retraction is complicated
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if it only were client to client, it would be more of a user choice
16:25:04 Link Mauve
It is client to client though.
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16:25:48 lovetox
nope not if the server supports it
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then suddenly its not the clients choice anymore, rather the server decides which messages it deletes from MAM and in what timeframe
16:26:30 Zash
server support is optional tho?
16:26:47 lovetox
and it gets more complicated, if client and servers have different timeframes etc
16:27:07 lovetox
actually my first idea is to remove server support for that
16:27:18 lovetox
like i dont see why we would need that
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its also weird to let a remote instance controle messages in your server archive
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16:30:32 Link Mauve
lovetox, the reason for server to be optionally involved, is if it wants to actually remove the messages from the archive, instead of keeping them forever alongside the retraction.
16:31:31 lovetox
but you cant choose Link Mauve ...
16:31:50 lovetox
if the server supports it, i send you 50 retractions, the server will not ask you if you want them gone from the archive
16:31:53 lovetox
they are just gone
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Did the jabber.org cert expire?
16:34:05 Zash
It did
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lovetox, the server admin wanted that.
16:36:44 Link Mauve
If not they wouldn’t have enabled it.
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16:37:09 lovetox
and which server admin would make that decision?! and why?
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the ones who enable every module they can find?
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only the ones that make the checkmark green or the % go up !
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let me tell you about XEP-0258 and that green check mark in Gajim ;)
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oh... oh no https://quicwg.org/quic-v2/draft-ietf-quic-v2.html
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actually it's fine, just trying valiantly to avoid middleboxes breaking everything in the future... good luck
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