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13:28:27 Kev
How are people typically sharing 363 URLs - SIMS(385)?
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OOB. ✎
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XEP-0066, OOB. ✏
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OOB is iq-only, and doesn't include useful information like file size, does it?
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Maybe I should go check.
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it is not iq-only
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Ah, fab.
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see https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0066.html#x-oob
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it does not include useful information like file size, but it works and is widely deployed, which is all what counts I suppose
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Still misses all the contenttype/size etc. info though :/
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(note the sarcasm)
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Yeah, I specifically need filesize to be communicated.
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please push SIMS forward.
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or XEP-0447 ?
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How are people managing fallback with OOB?
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Kev: let me tell you about HTTP HEAD
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Kev, fallback?
13:32:51 Ge0rG
Kev: some implementations require the oob url to be equal to the message body, others require it to be contained within the body
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OOB is only accepted by deployed clients if body == OOB-URL, otherwise it's ignored.
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Ge0rG: I want to be avoiding any HTTP requests at all if the file is too large to download at the moment. I'm not thinking about Internet use, predictably.
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ah, so subset is ok too, apparently.
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jonas’: implementation-defined
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I'm not aware of anyone using iq-0066
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Kev: understandably
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Ok, ta.
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Kev, just watch out, it's not like you can trust the size https://www.moparisthebest.com/httppppppppppp-upload/
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I'm thinking about slightly special cases :)
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(Although it's true the code should also work on the hostile Internet)
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has anyone seen HTTP File Upload components require the use of Cookie headers?
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No but Prosody uses the Authorization header, which triggered implementation of header support in some clients that were missing it.
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The question about Cookie's is particularly interesting, because Browsers might be Not Happy about setting cookies for particular cross-site requests. ✎
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The question about Cookies is particularly interesting, because Browsers might be Not Happy about setting cookies for particular cross-site requests. ✏
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Whereas the auth header shouldn't pose any great problem.
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I seem to remember the Auth header being special wrt CORS and in certain APIs
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Yes, those rules already apply to Authorization as well as Cookie
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and in general, not a problem as long as the service supports CORS correctly (i.e. allowing With-Credentials)
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Authorization's just a case of having the CORS headers, AFAICS. I've been told today by webbish folks that cookies are much harder.
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According to https://xhr.spec.whatwg.org/#the-setrequestheader()-method you can't set Cookie as it's a forbidden name
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or do you have to go via withCredentials then?
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withCredentials doesn't allow you to inject cookies, AFAK. ✎
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withCredentials doesn't allow you to inject cookies, AFAIK. ✏
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