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  424. Kev How are people typically sharing 363 URLs - SIMS(385)?
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  426. jonas’ OOB.
  427. jonas’ XEP-0066, OOB.
  428. Kev OOB is iq-only, and doesn't include useful information like file size, does it?
  429. Kev Maybe I should go check.
  430. jonas’ it is not iq-only
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  432. Kev Ah, fab.
  433. jonas’ see https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0066.html#x-oob
  434. jonas’ it does not include useful information like file size, but it works and is widely deployed, which is all what counts I suppose
  435. Kev Still misses all the contenttype/size etc. info though :/
  436. jonas’ (note the sarcasm)
  437. Kev Yeah, I specifically need filesize to be communicated.
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  439. jonas’ please push SIMS forward.
  440. wurstsalat or XEP-0447 ?
  441. Kev How are people managing fallback with OOB?
  442. Ge0rG Kev: let me tell you about HTTP HEAD
  443. jonas’ Kev, fallback?
  444. Ge0rG Kev: some implementations require the oob url to be equal to the message body, others require it to be contained within the body
  445. jonas’ OOB is only accepted by deployed clients if body == OOB-URL, otherwise it's ignored.
  446. Kev Ge0rG: I want to be avoiding any HTTP requests at all if the file is too large to download at the moment. I'm not thinking about Internet use, predictably.
  447. jonas’ ah, so subset is ok too, apparently.
  448. Ge0rG jonas’: implementation-defined
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  450. Ge0rG I'm not aware of anyone using iq-0066
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  452. Ge0rG Kev: understandably
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  454. Kev Ok, ta.
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  486. moparisthebest Kev, just watch out, it's not like you can trust the size https://www.moparisthebest.com/httppppppppppp-upload/
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  492. Kev I'm thinking about slightly special cases :)
  493. Kev (Although it's true the code should also work on the hostile Internet)
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  541. Tobias has anyone seen HTTP File Upload components require the use of Cookie headers?
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  544. Zash No but Prosody uses the Authorization header, which triggered implementation of header support in some clients that were missing it.
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  546. Kev The question about Cookie's is particularly interesting, because Browsers might be Not Happy about setting cookies for particular cross-site requests.
  547. Kev The question about Cookies is particularly interesting, because Browsers might be Not Happy about setting cookies for particular cross-site requests.
  548. Kev Whereas the auth header shouldn't pose any great problem.
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  550. Zash I seem to remember the Auth header being special wrt CORS and in certain APIs
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  556. MattJ Yes, those rules already apply to Authorization as well as Cookie
  557. MattJ and in general, not a problem as long as the service supports CORS correctly (i.e. allowing With-Credentials)
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  566. Kev Authorization's just a case of having the CORS headers, AFAICS. I've been told today by webbish folks that cookies are much harder.
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  585. Tobias According to https://xhr.spec.whatwg.org/#the-setrequestheader()-method you can't set Cookie as it's a forbidden name
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  588. Tobias or do you have to go via withCredentials then?
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  591. Kev withCredentials doesn't allow you to inject cookies, AFAK.
  592. Kev withCredentials doesn't allow you to inject cookies, AFAIK.
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