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  599. goffi We are missing a way to specify an element in a pubsub item in XEP-0372: it's usable out of the box to mention somebody in a XEP-0277 blog post, but we can't specify the substring.
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  601. goffi I would love to be able to specify something like `element=entry{http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom}/title'
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  603. MattJ XPath is knocking at the door, the windows, and trying to climb down the chimney
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  606. goffi yes of course XPath would be great. At least a simplified version.
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  610. goffi For pubsub mentions, maybe it would be simpler to just do something specific to XEP-0277.
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  613. goffi `element="title" type="text"`, `element="content" type="xhtml"`
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  622. Guus What is the expected Connection Manager behavior if a BOSH client sends a 'pause' value that's higher than the 'maxpause' value?
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  625. Guus terminate/policy-violation ?
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  631. Guus or https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0124.html#errorstatus-recover ?
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  917. lovetox could we not communicate some kind of hash in the disco info for the pep notify features
  918. lovetox then the server could know what we last received
  919. lovetox and does not need to send us the same info all the time again on going online
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  923. lovetox or maybe the timestamp we received the last notify
  924. lovetox http://jabber.org/protocol/tune+notify@2022-07-01T12:23Z
  925. lovetox then the server can check if there was a update to the node since then
  926. Zash https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0312.html ?
  927. lovetox hm same idea, but the solution seems much more fragile
  928. lovetox when communicating the timestamp its the last timestamp when the client received something from that node
  929. Zash is per-node needed?
  930. antranigv has left
  931. lovetox yes
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  934. lovetox time since last connecting is too fragile
  935. lovetox there is no indication for a client when a pubsub catchup was or is complete
  936. lovetox server can be down while i come online
  937. lovetox then i go offline, server comes online, i come online, and send, last onlince since 2 seconds
  938. lovetox server determines, no updates in the last 2 seconds
  939. lovetox but missed me coming online 20 times before
  940. Zash who is "server" here?
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  943. lovetox the remote server from which want updates
  944. lovetox the remote server from which i want updates
  945. Zash is there only one?
  946. lovetox no, but the example was about one that is down
  947. lovetox i come online, i tell you my last logout time was 100 seconds ago, but this nice presence never reaches the remote server because its in maintainence
  948. lovetox then i reconnect
  949. lovetox and so last logout time = 2 seconds
  950. lovetox now this presence reaches the remote
  951. lovetox and it sends me nothing
  952. lovetox further there is no indication for a client that a pubsub catchup is complete
  953. lovetox so i cant even delay my reseting the last logout time
  954. lovetox what if i crash while connecting?
  955. Seve has joined
  956. lovetox did i crash befor i got all pubsub notifications? or after?
  957. lovetox i see stale info with this approach everywhere
  958. lovetox advantage is, i would not have to store last received timestamps
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