XSF Discussion - 2022-07-02

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03:54:23 raghavgururajan So, jabber.org is no longer owned by a company now?
03:54:58 raghavgururajan If so, it'd be great to migrate xmpp.org to jabber.org, IMO. :)
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04:07:37 moparisthebest raghavgururajan: the trademark jabber is still owned by Cisco though, just stop using it
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06:09:31 raghavgururajan moparisthebest: I see. I thought TMs expire after certain years.
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07:32:10 Guus There are a couple of very useful online scanners for XMPP, for features and TLS compatibility, but is there also an XMPP vulnerability scanner? Something that scans domains for known issues?
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07:33:30 raghavgururajan Guus: [1] https://xmpp.net [2] https://compliance.conversations.im/
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07:34:47 raghavgururajan Guus: Oh, never mind. Misunderstood your message.
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07:35:26 guus.der.kinderen Yup, those were the ones that I was referring to as 'very useful scanners. :)
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07:48:49 MattJ guus.der.kinderen: do you have any specific vulnerabilities in mind?
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07:55:56 emus This Newsletter release we cannot rely on wurstsalat updating the XEP secrion. Hence, is there someone who can volunteer to update the xep development for June? That would be really great!
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07:58:01 guus.der.kinderen MattJ: Nothing specific, no, but I would not be surprised if we could easily come up with a number of things worthwhile checking for. Open in-band registration without any kind of out-of-band verification, specific server-sided vulnerabilities that Ge0rG and moparisthebest undoubtedly have many listings from, etc.
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08:18:17 MattJ My feeling is that if you want those things, they would be better as part of an existing security scanner framework
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08:21:29 Guus That's why I'm asking. The grander scheme was to see if we can add a preexisting XMPP scanner to the KAT framework that's being open sourced by Dutch government.
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15:45:42 Ge0rG Guus: surprisingly, I don't have any server vulnerabilities on my hands, and I only know of one evil OOM DoS attack
15:46:30 Ge0rG There are so many exciting things I'd like to develop - or rather get developed by a competent student in exchange for credit points
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15:50:20 L29Ah credit points huh
15:50:25 L29Ah that's even beyond food stamps
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15:51:02 Ge0rG Well, I could even offer money to German students interested in security, but not for xmpp
15:51:03 Zash maybe it holds up better vs the inflation
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15:54:22 moparisthebest Some things you can't really scan for though, like if they are vulnerable to a memory dos
15:54:23 Ge0rG What about some EXI or SOAP instead?
15:54:42 Ge0rG moparisthebest: it depends on how long you scan 😁
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15:55:09 Zash Aren't there things that compare distro package management inventory against CVE databases?
15:55:11 moparisthebest Sure you can attack but not really scan
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15:56:32 Ge0rG Zash: yeah, need to run those on the server though
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