XSF Discussion - 2022-07-03


  1. jonas’

    > Well, I could even offer money to German students interested in security, but not for xmpp But what about XMPP security?!

  2. kurisu

    What client do you even use I thought maybe I could connect to telegram/instagram/whatsapp via xmpp transports to have less spyware on my device. I registered on hot chilli which supports those. Conversations outright doesn't support service discovery apparently, so no way of connecting to a transport. Same for Dino. Gajim does, but when I merely select a transport in the list, it gives me some Python exception about an undefined attribute (which I suppose is just because the code is not tested at all). So what client is one even supposed to use now? Other clients to my knowledge don't even support omemo...

  3. singpolyma

    kurisu: gajim but a better version probably? Or psi. OMEMO not relevant for gateways and also you can use one client to setup the gateway and another to use it

  4. singpolyma

    Like you'll be able to use conversations with it once it's setup

  5. pep.

    kurisu, the discovery is only necessary if you don't know the address and its format. And yes other clients do support OMEMO, I think we've been bullied enough for it to have it implemented in most places by now :)

  6. kurisu

    What other clients do? Last time I checked Xabber refused to, psi just didn't, etc

  7. singpolyma

    pep.: I wouldn't say most, but more that that small set for sure

  8. singpolyma

    pep.: I wouldn't say most, but more than that small set for sure

  9. singpolyma

    kurisu: check omemo.top

  10. pep.

    Conversations, Gajim, Dino, Movim, Libervia, Converse, Monal, Siskin, Profanity, Poezio, Psi, UWPX. I think that's "most" enough :P

  11. singpolyma

    pep.: Really? There's a psi build with omemo now?

  12. pep.

    omemo.top says so

  13. pep.

    Maybe that should be taken down

  14. kurisu

    > Conversations, Gajim, Dino, Movim, Libervia, Converse, Monal, Siskin, Profanity, Poezio, Psi, UWPX. I think that's "most" enough :P How many of those support service disco?:)

  15. pep.

    (Or I don't get the progress bar on that website, which is also very possible)

  16. pep.

    kurisu, I Gajim, Movim(?), Poezio for sure. But discovery is mostly convenience

  17. pep.

    I get it it's best for users if it's there but it's not impossible to do without

  18. singpolyma

    If psi has mam too by now maybe just use psi

  19. singpolyma

    Psi is awesome

  20. singpolyma

    I switched to gajim because psi fell too far behind on features