XSF Discussion - 2022-07-26

MattJ: Thank you very much for your email to the members list!

You're welcome!

Yes, thanks.

I second this! Thanks MattJ !

meh, I don't find any mail ✏

want some of mine? I have plenty of mail. Some even have interesting proposals from very interesting people. Royalty, lonely women, members of financial institutions, etc, etc.

I'll take the financial institutions

Only the banks from Nigeria, or all of them?

Only things related to checking and savings accounts please

In light of the sponji debacle, and my campaign to give all mucs icons, it'd be nice to be able to user-locally set muc avatars

Sound reasonable?

Not necessarily volunteering to write an xep, but thoughts?

why restrict that to MUC avatars?

(also: what is a sponji?)

Because i feel like being able to set other user's avatars is not a desired or productive feature?

xmpp:conversations@conference.siacs.eu?join ctrl+f sponji

I am interpreting this feature as: a user can override on its own devices whatever avatar is set for a particular XMPP entity. If that's what you are after, this might be equally desirable for MUCs as for regular contacts?

Take the https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0084.html data format, store it per https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0223.html in a different node with item ids set to the JIDs of the entities as in https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0292.html#contacts

Guus: Maybe, i don't see the use case but if you do then fine

Zash: Workable then, nice

qy, the use case is pretty much the same: not everyone set avatars, and distinguishing contacts by color and/or the first letter is error prone (I had at least two contacts starting with the smae letter and having indistinguishable greens for the color in Conversations until I figured out I could set pet avatars using android's address book)

note that storing pet names/avatars on your server and doing so per client has different privacy properties. Btw, encrypted pep when?

mjk: fair enough

> Rock musicians have a love-hate relationship with dynamic range compression, since it removes a dimension of complexity from their music, but is necessary in order to sound professional. Bloat might work by the same principles, in which case, zip source file embedding could be a more socially conscious way of wasting resources in order to gain appeal with the non-classical software consumer. (from the APE "paper")

oops, wrong channel