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  849. edhelas A message that only contains an origin-id cannot be quoted in the sens of XEP-0461: Message Replies ?
  850. edhelas Same question for XEP-0444: Message Reactions actually
  851. edhelas From a MUC, because the origin-id can be send twice by different sources
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  853. Zash wah
  854. Zash did you mean stanza-id?
  855. Zash origin-id needs to go away
  856. edhelas https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0359.html#origin-id
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  858. Zash those don't have message@id
  859. Zash what you see in the wild is messages with both message@id and origin-id, with the same big uuid
  860. Zash twice!
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  863. edhelas ok
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  874. Zash should the reply@to point to the room itself?
  875. Zash should the {urn:xmpp:reply:0}reply@to point to the room itself?
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  877. edhelas It will take me a few hours to wrap my head again against all those cases, it's pretty complex
  878. edhelas It's maybe the 4th or 5th time I'm fixing things
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  882. edhelas https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0444.html#sending-reactions
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  886. edhelas If <origin-id> is present, can I just avoid to handle <message id=""> ?
  887. edhelas Looks like the same thing to me except one of both is a proper UUID
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  891. edhelas > The message is referred to by including its id or in MUCs its stanza-id as defined in Unique and Stable Stanza IDs (XEP-0359) [4] in the 'id' attribute of the reactions element.
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  894. edhelas This is the logic for reactions, and for replies its worded differently
  895. edhelas https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0461.html#business-id
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  897. edhelas To me both XEPs (message replies and message reactions) should have exactly the same logic Also I'd be happy to simply drop the message "id" part. I think a modern client should be able to handle XEP-0359: Unique and Stable Stanza IDs if they support Message Replies and/or Message Reactions.
  898. edhelas Then the logic should be written at only one place and all the XEPs that replies on doing something on a message should rely on that unique logic. To me the logic to ensure that we are replying/reacting to a unique message would be: - If type = chatroom, check stanza-id with a by from the MUC JID - If other type, check origin-id That's it
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  900. edhelas *that relies on doing something
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