XSF Discussion - 2022-09-18


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  601. edhelas So I'm bringing back 0080 support in Movim :) 8 years old code to resurrect
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  607. emus edhelas: 👍
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  609. wurstsalat > So I'm bringing back 0080 support in Movim :) 8 years old code to resurrect that's a XEP I'd really like to see in Conversations as well. static geo:-URIs are not the same :)
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  617. edhelas The XEP is actually pretty good :)
  618. edhelas Maybe having a small update for privacy handling (whitelisting JIDs) could be interesting
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  621. edhelas Would be fun to have locations event in MUC as well :p
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  635. emus Maybe Monal devs could also have a word on the xep improvements
  636. emus > edhelas: > 2022-09-18 06:58 (GMT+02:00) > Would be fun to have locations event in MUC as well :p ouh yes
  637. edhelas Then you could embed a minimap and follow friends, when going to a convention for example
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  640. edhelas Or start a hide&seek game :D
  641. singpolyma edhelas: it's pep right? So if you want to whitelist you just set a whitelist on the pep node?
  642. edhelas singpolyma yes :) but talking about it in the XEP might help
  643. edhelas sharing location can bring big privacy issues, not the same thing as Mood or Tune for example
  644. singpolyma Just like a one line "note you may wish to set the pep node to whitelist security" just in case the reader is unaware of the options?
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  653. edhelas Dunno, I'll see where I'm going with it
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  660. MattJ As usual with reusing generic mechanisms to fulfil specific tasks, you'll want to look at edge cases, such as what happens if a client forgets about an ongoing sharing activity. You might want to bake some TTL and/or "sharing ended" into the protocol.
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  666. wurstsalat "share my location for 30 min" is an option seen in many IM clients
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  671. lovetox MattJ this exists already natively in PubSub
  672. lovetox but nobody implements it, and thats sad
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  674. lovetox pubsub#item_expire
  675. lovetox this would be so useful for data which are only valid for a small duration
  676. MattJ Maybe it's time to change that? :)
  677. lovetox tune, location and a future status xep
  678. lovetox check your issue tracker :D
  679. edhelas pubsub#item_expire damnit :D
  680. MattJ Okay, it's only been open 2 years :)
  681. lovetox yeah thats recent, i have issue on the Gajim tracker from Zash which are 10 years old 🤤
  682. edhelas Again the prophecy is right, 0060 is magically adding feature each time you have a look at it
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  691. mdosch Wasn't the prophecy about 0045?
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  693. Zash Both.
  694. edhelas I heard some found pieces of 0045 in 0060
  695. Zash They have both reached the critical size where they start growing by themselves.
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  699. Maranda heard XEP-0045 was going to be replaced by XEP-0060 🤔
  700. edhelas I have mixed feeling about that 🤔
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  702. Maranda indeed.
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  704. Maranda although I think I have enough proof of fact that with a few rooms with 500+ occupants, MUC *can* _indeedly_ cause server detonation now 🤭
  705. guus.der.kinderen "each of our clients joins 5000 rooms. Why is it slow?" <-- last week
  706. edhelas "We have 5000 rooms. Why is it slow?" <-- Matrix client admin
  707. edhelas *server
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  709. guus.der.kinderen Oh no, these had 150.000+
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  714. Maranda 150000 ...rooms?
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  717. edhelas It's over 9000
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  720. Maranda 🤔
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  755. guus.der.kinderen > 150000 ...rooms? Yes, to get started
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  766. mdosch Wow.
  767. Zash Let me tell you about dunbar numbers.
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  779. MattJ guus.der.kinderen, a very similar example is why I worked on XEP-0437
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  782. guus.der.kinderen Which is what I am implementing next...
  783. guus.der.kinderen Thank you for that. ☺️
  784. MattJ Because, yes, as Zash rightly points out - whether you "join" 5000 rooms or not is irrelevant, people in reality will only interact with 5 on average
  785. Maranda thinks that still the traffic generated by 150000 with 1-2 occupants is far less by a few with 500-10000
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  792. Maranda And it's mostly passive traffic, so not generated by actual interaction either
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  794. Zash Maybe we should investigate more into cutting down noise from joins, parts, random presence in public chats. It does seems like a multiplier, especially when we have the same 20 people in 20 rooms...
  795. Maranda (And surprisingly the killing factor is actually IQs and not presences)
  796. Zash disco?
  797. Zash Disco can be cached closer to the requesting client.
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  809. Maranda Disco, vCard fetching (💥), last Activity, version ... <Inserti payload>
  810. Maranda Disco, vCard fetching (💥), last Activity, version ... <Insert payload>
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  812. Maranda Clients tend asking a lot of stuff to newcomers, a bit less after
  813. Maranda And most clients don't just lazy load the occupants roster, so they just queue alle the IQs on a first join stalling as well and blocking
  814. Zash Could have a disco cache in the MUC itself. Avatars, I'd like to see something like that image hash thing, ie squeeze a in a very small version of the image into presence directly (like max 8x8px), then lazy-load the real avatars.
  815. Zash and who uses last activity today???
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  817. Maranda > <Zash> and who uses last activity today??? 😅
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  819. lovetox Gajim did this for a long time
  820. lovetox queuing multiple IQs for every participant
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  823. lovetox rather not queuing, i mean we just sent it out
  824. lovetox now we really queue it and send one per second or something
  825. lovetox but this means it needs a lot of time until you have everything, but i guess avatars are not that important
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  913. singpolyma Should be on the server to slow it down if needed not the client. Though client may also need to throttle to remain performant in some cases I guess
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  932. Link Mauve Zash, I already started working on that very small avatar thingy, fyi.
  933. Link Mauve I already have some code for that in a branch of roezio.
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  935. singpolyma How small is very small?
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  937. Link Mauve A few blocks of BC7 at most.
  938. Link Mauve Something which can fit in a few hundreds bytes of base64 at most.
  939. Link Mauve One block (4×4) is 16 bytes, so about 22 bytes after base64.
  940. Link Mauve If you want to go 8×8 like Zash suggested, that’s 64 bytes, or 86 bytes of base64.
  941. Zash I'm mostly thinking 8×8 as an upper limit
  942. singpolyma So 8x8 pixels?
  943. Link Mauve I’m writing the protocol (in the future) and two implementations (one in a client and one in Prosody (that one is in the future too)), admins will be able to configure that upper limit obviously.
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  945. Link Mauve roezio renewed my motivation lately (thanks pep.!), but that’s based on some old discussion already.
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