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  463. Guus Example 26 in https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0178.html#example-26 shows an empty response being represented by a '=' character, "as shown in RFC 6120. I'm seeing the same example in RFC 6120 9.2.2 (https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6120#section-9.2.2), but where is that defined? Isn't the base64 encoding of an empty string an empty string?
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  468. flow Guus, I think it is, but the designers of the rfc probably want to distinguish between an initial repsonse of the empty string and no intial response
  469. flow Guus, I think it is, but the designers of the rfc probably wanted to be able to distinguish between an initial repsonse of the empty string and no intial response
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  471. flow Guus, I think it is, but the designers of the rfc probably wanted to be able to distinguish between an initial repsonse being the empty string and no intial response
  472. flow Guus, see rfc6120 § 6.4.2
  473. Guus ah, ace.
  474. Guus thanks
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  477. Zash So <auth></auth> and <auth/> means NULL and <auth>=</auth> means empty string.
  478. Zash So <auth></auth> and <auth/> means no value and <auth>=</auth> means empty string.
  479. MattJ Interestingly SASL2 does it differently (empty element vs absent element)
  480. flow which kind seems to be a saner design
  481. flow which seems to be a saner design
  482. Guus Zash, I'd think that <auth/></auth> is forbidden by 6.4.2?
  483. Zash How?
  484. flow I would hope that we consider <element></element> and <element/> equal everywhere
  485. Guus not using '=' ,I mean
  486. Guus 6.4.2 seems to state that 'zero-length' response MUST be represented with an '=' ?
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  488. flow zero-length response on the sasl layer
  489. flow not on the XMPP layer
  490. Zash as in base64("") → "="
  491. Zash but base64(null) → "", sorta
  492. Zash aka <auth/>
  493. flow I get how this is confusing, but I believe <auth></auth> (and <auth/>) means "no initial data on the sasl layer", and <auth>=</auth> initial data on the sasl layer that is the empty string
  494. Zash correct
  495. flow I get how this is confusing, but I believe <auth></auth> (and <auth/>) means "no initial data on the sasl layer", and <auth>=</auth> means "initial data on the sasl layer that is the empty string"
  496. Guus ok, thanks
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  499. flow I get how this is confusing, but I believe <auth></auth> (and <auth/>) means "no initial data on the sasl layer", and <auth>=</auth> means "initial data on the sasl layer with a length of 0"
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