XSF Discussion - 2022-10-04

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flow 06:50:13
singpolyma, not as far as I remember, but isn't that something you would usually negotiate with the online counterparty?
flow 06:50:47
not saying that advertising codes etc. in disco is a bad idea, i just believe we haven't seen such a thing because it is usually negotiated after the disco lookup
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Daniel 06:54:49
I don't think there has been any discussion on that but we do that on one of the projects I'm working on
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flow 07:02:49
Daniel, I am curious. Can you elaborate on the motivation for doing so?
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Daniel 07:05:34
For example voice messages going from iOS to Android. Android supports the very low bandwidth GSM codec (aar something) while iOS does not. When sending between Androids we use that. But when sending to iOS we use ogg
Daniel 07:06:02
Plus potentially sending heif or avif images that older Androids don't support
Daniel 07:07:12
> For example voice messages going from iOS to Android. Android supports the very low bandwidth GSM codec (aar something) while iOS does not. When sending between Androids we use that. But when sending to iOS we use ogg Plus older versions of Android don't have an ogg encoder so we simply hide the voice message button when the contact is iOS
Daniel 07:07:31
All in all classic negotiation stuff but for one shot message types
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flow 07:18:06
thanks :)
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MattJ 07:39:06
Daniel: how do you deal with this when the recipient is offline?
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Daniel 08:00:08
We do some light client side caching. Storing boolean like "supports low quality voice message". Conversations does this too with "supports av calls"
Daniel 08:00:23
But it's easier on that project because every user has only one client
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flow 11:28:04
MattJ, https://github.com/Flowdalic/xeps/commit/1d0d0227af7cd9866c4c913ca8bb98b15c73748b
MattJ 11:32:42
Yay, thanks :)
MattJ 11:32:49
ETA on -NONE? ;)
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flow 11:36:25
MattJ, I was hoping that I could motviate you to write the patch for -NONE, together with a big fat warning text about the implications (even though, -NONE potentially has similar security properties like -UNIQ). I guess we should also write a sentence recommending using tls-exporter when available
MattJ 11:37:50
Sure
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singpolyma 12:10:57
Daniel: yeah, that sounds exactly like the kind of use I had in mind. Even webp support for image messages isn't universal
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