XSF Discussion - 2022-10-09


  1. emus

    37c3 is likely to happen. as I am a local I could imagine to support organisation of an xmpp meeting or something. Who would be interested to go?

  2. pep.

    I'm certainly going

  3. emus

    👍

  4. singpolyma

    Is that the one where entry is by lottery?

  5. pep.

    "lottery", aka on invitation

  6. Syndace

    invitation first for CCC members, open sales afterwards

  7. pep.

    CCC members? Are hackerspaces "members"?

  8. Syndace

    I'd surely join too

  9. Syndace

    Yeah?

  10. pep.

    Ok. I've also asked regenerating tokens for the XSf multiple times in the past

  11. Syndace

    ah right, you can do that too, cool

  12. Syndace

    I'm a little worried they haven't announced anything yet

  13. pep.

    I was told it's not automatic, but yeah we can try this year again

  14. pep.

    The CFP was announced today

  15. pep.

    https://content.events.ccc.de/cfp/37c3/index.en.html

  16. Syndace

    oooh awesome

  17. emus

    Then we are 3 already and I get sad PMs people cannot join because of other stuff, but interest is there. If we are 10 willing people I think its good to organise something

  18. pep.

    Sure we'll organize something. We still have time

  19. pep.

    We also don't need to be 10 :P

  20. emus

    Its a strech goal :-)

  21. thilo.molitor

    > Ok. I've also asked regenerating tokens for the XSf multiple times in the past What do you mean?

  22. pep.

    I've sent an email to organizers asking for tokens

  23. pep.

    In the past years. We'll need to do that this year as well once they announce the invite phase

  24. emus

    But tokens mean we as an organisation can ditribute to appliers that got rejected?

  25. pep.

    What do you mean

  26. emus

    I just dont understand how the token system works (and would work for us)

  27. pep.

    There's 3 types of tokens, regenerating tokens, angel tokens, and final tokens. Final tokens are valid to redeem a single ticket. A regenerating token will give you another token (regenerating or final) once you've redeemed it, and an angel token will give you a final token once you've redeemed it

  28. moparisthebest

    Leave it to a bunch of engineers to overcomplicate things...

  29. pep.

    It makes sense to me really.. they can control the flow of users and decide what population they want

  30. Daniel

    It's a system to give close members of the ccc access to tickets before the open ticket lottery begins

  31. Daniel

    (For context if you are not familiar with C3)

  32. singpolyma

    I wanted to go one year when I had a bigco paying for anywhere I wanted to go, but the lottery made that too risky

  33. pep.

    fwiw there's an ultimate phase where people sell their tickets because they can't go anymore

  34. emus

    > pep.: > 2022-10-09 08:28 (GMT+02:00) > There's 3 types of tokens, regenerating tokens, angel tokens, and final tokens. Final tokens are valid to redeem a single ticket. A regenerating token will give you another token (regenerating or final) once you've redeemed it, and an angel token will give you a final token once you've redeemed it Ah now I get it. And remember. But didnt know about other tokens get

  35. emus

    > moparisthebest: > 2022-10-09 08:29 (GMT+02:00) > Leave it to a bunch of engineers to overcomplicate things... yes, it makes sense

  36. Daniel

    It's probably going to be a lot harder to get tickets this year. Hamburg is a much smaller venue than Leipzig

  37. pep.

    Daniel, I was also wondering. They've been renovating it right? They haven't been increasing the size?

  38. Daniel

    Plus with the pandemic they might not even fill it to 2016 levels

  39. Daniel

    > Daniel, I was also wondering. They've been renovating it right? They haven't been increasing the size? I wouldn't think they did anything about the size. I mean they didn't rebuild the building itself

  40. Daniel

    But I don't know

  41. pep.

    Ok

  42. emus

    At least the foyer area apprear to be bigger. However a quick search did not tell anything about increased size. Maybe they were just making it more modern. Anyway, if people are interested we should do it and hope everyone gets a token in whatever way

  43. MSavoritias (fae,ve)

    Do you need a ticket to get in? So as I understand its based on lottery for everybody or just the speakers?

  44. pep.

    There's the token phase that CCC members get access to (plus some more organizations) and then lottery. I would hope speakers get their ticket guaranteed, and as I understand they may not have to pay for it, but flights/hotels etc. aren't paid

  45. MSavoritias (fae,ve)

    Ah okay. So basically no chance for me to go then :(

  46. MSavoritias (fae,ve)

    Unless i win the lottery that is

  47. mathieui

    What lottery? From what I remember it was more of a rush to get the available tickets than anything

  48. mathieui

    Though I am probably not going this year, kind of unconvinced by a "many people in little space" event in those times

  49. emus

    MSavoritias (fae,ve): I don't understand. Its not impossible I would say

  50. pep.

    mathieui: Yeah, there's probably going to be many people thinking the same I guess. To a reason. So less people coming in total

  51. MSavoritias (fae,ve)

    Yeah just found the page

  52. MSavoritias (fae,ve)

    I can buy a ticket then just have to be fast enough :D

  53. emus

    You have to win the lottery and then you can buy :-)

  54. emus

    But I think lottery is the wrong word. In lottery almost everyone always looses. This is a randomization system with some staging

  55. MSavoritias (fae,ve)

    Wait what? It doesnt say lottery. I found the 2019 page and at least then it seemed to be just a presale

  56. MSavoritias (fae,ve)

    But i have to be fast and it is at the second round after the local people

  57. MSavoritias (fae,ve)

    Am I seeing this wrong?

  58. emus

    Sorry, haven't checked the website and was talkng from experience. So nevermind, what I said maybe

  59. emus

    But please lets communicate this in.the community so the interest comes

  60. MSavoritias (fae,ve)

    True :)