XSF Discussion - 2022-10-09


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  499. emus 37c3 is likely to happen. as I am a local I could imagine to support organisation of an xmpp meeting or something. Who would be interested to go?
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  503. pep. I'm certainly going
  504. emus 👍
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  541. singpolyma Is that the one where entry is by lottery?
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  544. pep. "lottery", aka on invitation
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  555. Syndace invitation first for CCC members, open sales afterwards
  556. pep. CCC members? Are hackerspaces "members"?
  557. Syndace I'd surely join too
  558. Syndace Yeah?
  559. pep. Ok. I've also asked regenerating tokens for the XSf multiple times in the past
  560. Syndace ah right, you can do that too, cool
  561. Syndace I'm a little worried they haven't announced anything yet
  562. pep. I was told it's not automatic, but yeah we can try this year again
  563. pep. The CFP was announced today
  564. pep. https://content.events.ccc.de/cfp/37c3/index.en.html
  565. Syndace oooh awesome
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  567. emus Then we are 3 already and I get sad PMs people cannot join because of other stuff, but interest is there. If we are 10 willing people I think its good to organise something
  568. pep. Sure we'll organize something. We still have time
  569. pep. We also don't need to be 10 :P
  570. emus Its a strech goal :-)
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  597. thilo.molitor > Ok. I've also asked regenerating tokens for the XSf multiple times in the past What do you mean?
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  599. pep. I've sent an email to organizers asking for tokens
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  608. pep. In the past years. We'll need to do that this year as well once they announce the invite phase
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  629. emus But tokens mean we as an organisation can ditribute to appliers that got rejected?
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  634. pep. What do you mean
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  640. emus I just dont understand how the token system works (and would work for us)
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  642. pep. There's 3 types of tokens, regenerating tokens, angel tokens, and final tokens. Final tokens are valid to redeem a single ticket. A regenerating token will give you another token (regenerating or final) once you've redeemed it, and an angel token will give you a final token once you've redeemed it
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  645. moparisthebest Leave it to a bunch of engineers to overcomplicate things...
  646. pep. It makes sense to me really.. they can control the flow of users and decide what population they want
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  649. Daniel It's a system to give close members of the ccc access to tickets before the open ticket lottery begins
  650. Daniel (For context if you are not familiar with C3)
  651. singpolyma I wanted to go one year when I had a bigco paying for anywhere I wanted to go, but the lottery made that too risky
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  653. pep. fwiw there's an ultimate phase where people sell their tickets because they can't go anymore
  654. emus > pep.: > 2022-10-09 08:28 (GMT+02:00) > There's 3 types of tokens, regenerating tokens, angel tokens, and final tokens. Final tokens are valid to redeem a single ticket. A regenerating token will give you another token (regenerating or final) once you've redeemed it, and an angel token will give you a final token once you've redeemed it Ah now I get it. And remember. But didnt know about other tokens get
  655. emus > moparisthebest: > 2022-10-09 08:29 (GMT+02:00) > Leave it to a bunch of engineers to overcomplicate things... yes, it makes sense
  656. Daniel It's probably going to be a lot harder to get tickets this year. Hamburg is a much smaller venue than Leipzig
  657. pep. Daniel, I was also wondering. They've been renovating it right? They haven't been increasing the size?
  658. Daniel Plus with the pandemic they might not even fill it to 2016 levels
  659. Daniel > Daniel, I was also wondering. They've been renovating it right? They haven't been increasing the size? I wouldn't think they did anything about the size. I mean they didn't rebuild the building itself
  660. Daniel But I don't know
  661. pep. Ok
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  672. emus At least the foyer area apprear to be bigger. However a quick search did not tell anything about increased size. Maybe they were just making it more modern. Anyway, if people are interested we should do it and hope everyone gets a token in whatever way
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  684. MSavoritias (fae,ve) Do you need a ticket to get in? So as I understand its based on lottery for everybody or just the speakers?
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  687. pep. There's the token phase that CCC members get access to (plus some more organizations) and then lottery. I would hope speakers get their ticket guaranteed, and as I understand they may not have to pay for it, but flights/hotels etc. aren't paid
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  693. MSavoritias (fae,ve) Ah okay. So basically no chance for me to go then :(
  694. MSavoritias (fae,ve) Unless i win the lottery that is
  695. mathieui What lottery? From what I remember it was more of a rush to get the available tickets than anything
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  697. mathieui Though I am probably not going this year, kind of unconvinced by a "many people in little space" event in those times
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  699. emus MSavoritias (fae,ve): I don't understand. Its not impossible I would say
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  702. pep. mathieui: Yeah, there's probably going to be many people thinking the same I guess. To a reason. So less people coming in total
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  706. MSavoritias (fae,ve) Yeah just found the page
  707. MSavoritias (fae,ve) I can buy a ticket then just have to be fast enough :D
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  709. emus You have to win the lottery and then you can buy :-)
  710. emus But I think lottery is the wrong word. In lottery almost everyone always looses. This is a randomization system with some staging
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  712. MSavoritias (fae,ve) Wait what? It doesnt say lottery. I found the 2019 page and at least then it seemed to be just a presale
  713. MSavoritias (fae,ve) But i have to be fast and it is at the second round after the local people
  714. MSavoritias (fae,ve) Am I seeing this wrong?
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  727. emus Sorry, haven't checked the website and was talkng from experience. So nevermind, what I said maybe
  728. emus But please lets communicate this in.the community so the interest comes
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