XSF Discussion - 2022-11-09


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  5. debacle however: summit 2023-02 or no? :-)
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  300. edhelas Would it be possible to enable MAM on this room ?
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  304. mdosch edhelas: Looks like it is already enabled.
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  314. edhelas 🤔
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  516. vanitasvitae goffi, I'm reading over your set of proposed XEPs right now 👍️
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  518. vanitasvitae I filed https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/1243 with some fixes for the PTE proposal
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  545. mjk jumps onto the typo hunting wagon > a new items
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  552. goffi vanitasvitae: thanks. Yeah PTE needs polishing, I was in a rush to finish it due to grant deadline, but the main thing is there. I'll update it after council review if it's accepted.
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  566. vanitasvitae mjk, good find, I added it to the PR if you don't mind 🙂
  567. vanitasvitae s/if/hope/ 😛
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  572. mjk sure, that was my intention (as always, too lazy to log in)
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  680. singpolyma lovetox: https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/1246
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  683. Zash singpolyma, why does it change the item id there?
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  685. singpolyma Zash: in which part?
  686. Zash https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/1246/commits/ff1334998262ff13e7c23756ae26e54712231970#r1018053372 (hope I can link to that)
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  690. Zash id='current' is consistent with singleton nodes <https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0060.html#impl-singleton>
  691. singpolyma Ah, I thought this made the example more clear. It uses in the notification the same id that was used with the publish above. Using only 'current' would mean that a client receiving an even has no way to know if this version differs from what they have already fetched, but using any opaque id that changes on each publication then when you get an event you can check "is this the one I have?" and fetch if not
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  693. Zash Is contentless notifications used?
  694. singpolyma The XEP says yes (and did before, I did not change that)
  695. Zash ( https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0060.html#publisher-publish-success-withoutpayload )
  696. Zash I see.
  697. singpolyma The UUID thing was lovetox's suggestion IIRC, last time we discussed this update here
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  700. singpolyma Because with PEP you will get the notification every time you log in
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  702. singpolyma and so it makes it easy to see "ah, yes, that's the one I already have"
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  704. Zash That is an issue with all PEP nodes tho
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  710. singpolyma Yes, but if it's a small node then content-ful notifications are fine. But if every time I log in I just get contentless notification that says "current" that means... nothing?
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  736. Zash Do clients +notify for vcard4 currently?
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