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MattJ
Since when does a room even have presence?
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Daniel
since the room avatar hack
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Daniel
but I don’t think anyone has ever thought of including caps in said hack
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MattJ
I (and others) would really like the hack to go away, but maybe that horse has bolted
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Daniel
how would an alternative look like?
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MattJ
IIRC Link Mauve wrote a protoXEP that didn't get accepted (but my memory is vague)
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MattJ
https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/muc-avatars.html
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Daniel
that would be very similiar to what we are doing now (in terms of upload); it's just the hash that we are getting from a different place?
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Daniel
I'd be fine wtih that. and the upgrade path is easy as well because I could read the hash from either location for a while
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Daniel
2018 that was probably a time when we thought mix might become a thing :-/
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Link Mauve
The first version was simpler fyi: https://linkmauve.fr/extensions/muc-avatars.html
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Link Mauve
edhelas then added support for PubSub nodes in the same spec, which doesn’t really fit imo.
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Link Mauve
That was a process bug.
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Link Mauve
Daniel, I tried another proposal where I would add support for 0084 instead, but it got shot down as well.
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Link Mauve
Then I kind of gave up.
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Daniel
I don’t even remember when we added the presence hack
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Daniel
fwiw I +1 muc-avatars back then :-)
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Link Mauve
We did it at CCC.
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Link Mauve
Ah no, it was Ejabberd which did it first.
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edhelas
I'm having avatar for Pubsub Nodes in Movim as well indeed
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edhelas
Basically it's publishing the avatar-metadata in a specific item-id of the node, it's a hack, but "good enough" for now
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edhelas
Also I recently added Banners in Movim, same thing as 0084, but on another node, and with a landscape wide picture
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edhelas
(and I'm using a movim namespace at the moment)
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edhelas
Also for those cases, I'm directly using URLs for pictures, no more base64, way simpler to handle
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edhelas
https://upload.movim.eu/files/9d94237298995552fa13436420195fbca436dce7/tmdaSehOR970/image.png
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Alex
A reminder that we have our annual member meeting today @19:00UTC to approve the board&council election votes. When you are a member and have not voted yet in the annual board&council election then please take some time and do so via memberbot. Thanks
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jonas’
thank you Alex!
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jonas’
I won't be able to attend online, but IIRC I've cast my votes already :). So thanks for taking care!
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singpolyma
edhelas: that doesn't sound like a hack? Avatar in user is item in a specific PEP node, so on pubsub service is the same (same node) and existing code could even "just work" seems right
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edhelas
singpolyma no, there I have a different avatar per pubsub node
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edhelas
But indeed that's a good idea, I can have a Pubsub Service avatar this way as well
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edhelas
And vcard, smart :) !
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Alex
its meeting time, lets start in 3 minutes
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moparisthebest
\o/
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Alex
lets get started
- Alex bangs the gavel
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emus
👀
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Alex
here is our agenda for today: https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Meeting-Minutes-2022-11-22
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Alex
1) Call for Quorum
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Alex
as you can see 39 members voted via proxy, so we have a quorum already
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Alex
its actually 40, I got 1 per email which I will onclude in those numbers
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Alex
just updated the page
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Alex
2) Items Subject to a Vote
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Alex
annual board and council elections, you can see all applicants here: https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Board_and_Council_Elections_2022
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Alex
3) Opportunity for XSF members to Vote in the Meeting
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Alex
anyone here who has not voted yet and wants to do so now? Memberbot is still online
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Alex
looks like nobody wants to vote here?
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Alex
okay, will shutdown memberbot then and start working on the results
- Alex starts counting
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wurstsalat
🪘
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Alex
4) Announcement of Voting Results
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Alex
when you reload teh page at: https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Meeting-Minutes-2022-11-22#Announcement_of_Voting_Results you can see the results
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Alex
all applicants are accepted, congrats to everyone
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Zash
🎉️
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Alex
5) Any other Business?
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ralphm
Thanks Alex!
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emus
🤩 uhh wow
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moparisthebest
nothing here, thanks again Alex !
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Alex
6) Formal Adjournment
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Alex
I motion that we adjourn
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ralphm
+1
- Alex bangs the gavel
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Daniel
Thank you Alex
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ralphm
Yup, you're on the hook now, emus!
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Alex
thanks everyone. I will send out minutes tomorrow morning I guess and try to get websites and lists updated ASAP
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emus
Thanks Alex! ralphm: 💁🏻♂️ serving XMPP!
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moparisthebest
excited to have you on-board emus! everyone else is old news so that's not as exciting :P
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mjk
is that whatcha call easy onboarding?
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mjk
congratulations emus!
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emus
😄 Thanks, but I am happy to have all of them there as well an still (hopefully) motivated to be Board member!