XSF Discussion - 2022-11-22

Since when does a room even have presence?

since the room avatar hack

but I don’t think anyone has ever thought of including caps in said hack

I (and others) would really like the hack to go away, but maybe that horse has bolted

how would an alternative look like?

IIRC Link Mauve wrote a protoXEP that didn't get accepted (but my memory is vague)

https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/muc-avatars.html

that would be very similiar to what we are doing now (in terms of upload); it's just the hash that we are getting from a different place?

I'd be fine wtih that. and the upgrade path is easy as well because I could read the hash from either location for a while

2018 that was probably a time when we thought mix might become a thing :-/

The first version was simpler fyi: https://linkmauve.fr/extensions/muc-avatars.html

edhelas then added support for PubSub nodes in the same spec, which doesn’t really fit imo.

That was a process bug.

Daniel, I tried another proposal where I would add support for 0084 instead, but it got shot down as well.

Then I kind of gave up.

I don’t even remember when we added the presence hack

fwiw I +1 muc-avatars back then :-)

We did it at CCC.

Ah no, it was Ejabberd which did it first.

I'm having avatar for Pubsub Nodes in Movim as well indeed

Basically it's publishing the avatar-metadata in a specific item-id of the node, it's a hack, but "good enough" for now

Also I recently added Banners in Movim, same thing as 0084, but on another node, and with a landscape wide picture

(and I'm using a movim namespace at the moment)

Also for those cases, I'm directly using URLs for pictures, no more base64, way simpler to handle

https://upload.movim.eu/files/9d94237298995552fa13436420195fbca436dce7/tmdaSehOR970/image.png

A reminder that we have our annual member meeting today @19:00UTC to approve the board&council election votes. When you are a member and have not voted yet in the annual board&council election then please take some time and do so via memberbot. Thanks

thank you Alex!

I won't be able to attend online, but IIRC I've cast my votes already :). So thanks for taking care!

edhelas: that doesn't sound like a hack? Avatar in user is item in a specific PEP node, so on pubsub service is the same (same node) and existing code could even "just work" seems right

singpolyma no, there I have a different avatar per pubsub node

But indeed that's a good idea, I can have a Pubsub Service avatar this way as well

And vcard, smart :) !

its meeting time, lets start in 3 minutes

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lets get started

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here is our agenda for today: https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Meeting-Minutes-2022-11-22

1) Call for Quorum

as you can see 39 members voted via proxy, so we have a quorum already

its actually 40, I got 1 per email which I will onclude in those numbers

just updated the page

2) Items Subject to a Vote

annual board and council elections, you can see all applicants here: https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Board_and_Council_Elections_2022

3) Opportunity for XSF members to Vote in the Meeting

anyone here who has not voted yet and wants to do so now? Memberbot is still online

looks like nobody wants to vote here?

okay, will shutdown memberbot then and start working on the results

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4) Announcement of Voting Results

when you reload teh page at: https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Meeting-Minutes-2022-11-22#Announcement_of_Voting_Results you can see the results

all applicants are accepted, congrats to everyone

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5) Any other Business?

Thanks Alex!

🤩 uhh wow

nothing here, thanks again Alex !

6) Formal Adjournment

I motion that we adjourn

+1

Thank you Alex

Yup, you're on the hook now, emus!

thanks everyone. I will send out minutes tomorrow morning I guess and try to get websites and lists updated ASAP

Thanks Alex! ralphm: 💁🏻‍♂️ serving XMPP!

excited to have you on-board emus! everyone else is old news so that's not as exciting :P

is that whatcha call easy onboarding?

congratulations emus!

😄 Thanks, but I am happy to have all of them there as well an still (hopefully) motivated to be Board member!