XSF Discussion - 2022-11-22


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  357. MattJ Since when does a room even have presence?
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  361. Daniel since the room avatar hack
  362. Daniel but I don’t think anyone has ever thought of including caps in said hack
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  366. MattJ I (and others) would really like the hack to go away, but maybe that horse has bolted
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  368. Daniel how would an alternative look like?
  369. MattJ IIRC Link Mauve wrote a protoXEP that didn't get accepted (but my memory is vague)
  370. MattJ https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/muc-avatars.html
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  376. Daniel that would be very similiar to what we are doing now (in terms of upload); it's just the hash that we are getting from a different place?
  377. Daniel I'd be fine wtih that. and the upgrade path is easy as well because I could read the hash from either location for a while
  378. Daniel 2018 that was probably a time when we thought mix might become a thing :-/
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  381. Link Mauve The first version was simpler fyi: https://linkmauve.fr/extensions/muc-avatars.html
  382. Link Mauve edhelas then added support for PubSub nodes in the same spec, which doesn’t really fit imo.
  383. Link Mauve That was a process bug.
  384. Link Mauve Daniel, I tried another proposal where I would add support for 0084 instead, but it got shot down as well.
  385. Link Mauve Then I kind of gave up.
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  387. Daniel I don’t even remember when we added the presence hack
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  390. Daniel fwiw I +1 muc-avatars back then :-)
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  392. Link Mauve We did it at CCC.
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  394. Link Mauve Ah no, it was Ejabberd which did it first.
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  396. edhelas I'm having avatar for Pubsub Nodes in Movim as well indeed
  397. edhelas Basically it's publishing the avatar-metadata in a specific item-id of the node, it's a hack, but "good enough" for now
  398. edhelas Also I recently added Banners in Movim, same thing as 0084, but on another node, and with a landscape wide picture
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  400. edhelas (and I'm using a movim namespace at the moment)
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  405. edhelas Also for those cases, I'm directly using URLs for pictures, no more base64, way simpler to handle
  406. edhelas https://upload.movim.eu/files/9d94237298995552fa13436420195fbca436dce7/tmdaSehOR970/image.png
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  483. Alex A reminder that we have our annual member meeting today @19:00UTC to approve the board&council election votes. When you are a member and have not voted yet in the annual board&council election then please take some time and do so via memberbot. Thanks
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  487. jonas’ thank you Alex!
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  491. jonas’ I won't be able to attend online, but IIRC I've cast my votes already :). So thanks for taking care!
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  582. singpolyma edhelas: that doesn't sound like a hack? Avatar in user is item in a specific PEP node, so on pubsub service is the same (same node) and existing code could even "just work" seems right
  583. edhelas singpolyma no, there I have a different avatar per pubsub node
  584. edhelas But indeed that's a good idea, I can have a Pubsub Service avatar this way as well
  585. edhelas And vcard, smart :) !
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  949. Alex its meeting time, lets start in 3 minutes
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  952. moparisthebest \o/
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  954. Alex lets get started
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  956. emus 👀
  957. Alex here is our agenda for today: https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Meeting-Minutes-2022-11-22
  958. Alex 1) Call for Quorum
  959. Alex as you can see 39 members voted via proxy, so we have a quorum already
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  963. Alex its actually 40, I got 1 per email which I will onclude in those numbers
  964. Alex just updated the page
  965. Alex 2) Items Subject to a Vote
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  968. Alex annual board and council elections, you can see all applicants here: https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Board_and_Council_Elections_2022
  969. Alex 3) Opportunity for XSF members to Vote in the Meeting
  970. Alex anyone here who has not voted yet and wants to do so now? Memberbot is still online
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  975. Alex looks like nobody wants to vote here?
  976. Alex okay, will shutdown memberbot then and start working on the results
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  980. Alex starts counting
  981. wurstsalat 🪘
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  984. Alex 4) Announcement of Voting Results
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  986. Alex when you reload teh page at: https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Meeting-Minutes-2022-11-22#Announcement_of_Voting_Results you can see the results
  987. Alex all applicants are accepted, congrats to everyone
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  989. Zash 🎉️
  990. Alex 5) Any other Business?
  991. ralphm Thanks Alex!
  992. emus 🤩 uhh wow
  993. moparisthebest nothing here, thanks again Alex !
  994. Alex 6) Formal Adjournment
  995. Alex I motion that we adjourn
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  1001. Daniel Thank you Alex
  1002. ralphm Yup, you're on the hook now, emus!
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  1004. Alex thanks everyone. I will send out minutes tomorrow morning I guess and try to get websites and lists updated ASAP
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  1017. emus Thanks Alex! ralphm: 💁🏻‍♂️ serving XMPP!
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  1020. moparisthebest excited to have you on-board emus! everyone else is old news so that's not as exciting :P
  1021. mjk is that whatcha call easy onboarding?
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  1023. mjk congratulations emus!
  1024. emus 😄 Thanks, but I am happy to have all of them there as well an still (hopefully) motivated to be Board member!
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