XSF Discussion - 2022-12-01

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moparisthebest 14:04:39
Hmm... C2S and S2S over... WebRTC ? https://github.com/chr15m/bugout
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moparisthebest 14:05:35
Then anyone could host a server anywhere, even behind cgnat they don't control, on a phone, whatever
moparisthebest 14:06:23
In a browser tab, "visit this website to host your own XMPP server"
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singpolyma 14:08:22
Assuming you already have a turn server 😅
singpolyma 14:08:38
If you want that why not do s2s over websockets over DERP?
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Zash 14:34:18
Data channels?
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jonas’ 18:40:29
singpolyma: careful, moparisthebest *does* such things ;)
Zash 18:42:04
DERP: ENOENT
Zash 18:42:17
do I want to know what that is?
jonas’ 18:42:37
I did not dare to ask
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singpolyma 18:43:50
Zash: DERP is the TURN-alike network run by tailscale. It uses websockets for firewall punching etc purposes and they have a large network of relay servers already
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Zash 19:27:27
Sounds like centralization under the guise of decentralization?
moparisthebest 19:28:58
The XSF can set up a turn server then everyone can run their own XMPP server in a browser tab communicating through it, I mean if it works for matrix...
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MSavoritias (fae,ve) 20:06:07
That matrix just keeps getting worse the more i hear about it
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MattJ 20:09:04
This isn't a venue for Matrix-bashing
MSavoritias (fae,ve) 20:11:50
Sorry
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moparisthebest 21:48:23
emus: I can talk about QUIC / xmpp-proxy for a few minutes next Tuesday
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emus 21:57:59
moparistthebest - no no no absolutely NOT!1!! just kidding - yes please!!!! So, currently I count 4 short talks from goffi ~10 min edhelas ~10-15min mattj ~10 min moparisthebest ~5min
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moparisthebest 21:59:20
emus: cool! Yep I can probably stretch it to 10 or cut myself off anytime lol
mjk 22:01:12
> I can probably stretch it to 10 would that be considered more QUIC or less?
emus 22:01:34
moparistthebest - no no no absolutely NOT!1!! just kidding - yes please!!!! So, currently I count 4 short talks from goffi ~10 min edhelas ~10-15min mattj ~10 min moparisthebest ~10min
emus 22:01:49
moparisthebest: ^
moparisthebest 22:02:45
mjk: nice
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moparisthebest 22:03:03
3 short talks and 1 QUIC talk
mjk 22:03:12
:))
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emus 22:03:37
😅
emus 22:04:21
the quic talks at the xmpp event! the future is now
emus 22:04:56
But srsly - happy to host everyone of you
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emus: 19 CET / 18 UTC right?
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emus 22:09:33
😄 what did I post? back then. I will post again soon anyway
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moparisthebest 22:11:01
I don't remember sorry :)
moparisthebest 22:11:23
I need to massively unfollow people on the fediverse I can't find anything
mjk 22:13:05
emus: to quote yourself: > Tue, 6th, 7pm CET :) cc moparisthebest
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emus 22:37:54
yes ok ^
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