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Guus
Does the XMPP client in Thunderbird have a known issue with not responding to IQ request stanzas (even with an error)?
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Guus
This does not bode well: https://hg.mozilla.org/comm-central/file/tip/chat/protocols/xmpp/xmpp-base.sys.mjs#l2188
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mathieui
Why are RFCs, after all?
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Guus
> The Thunderbird build will take up to 30 GB of disk space in order to complete. Be sure to have enough free space and a fast internet connection to avoid interruptions
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Guus
so much for supplying a quick fix :)
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jonas’
just 30 GB?
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jonas’
pffff. compiling ceph eats at least 60GB!
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vanitasvitae
Guus: just submit an untested patch, ez
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Guus
Yeah because I love it when people do that to me 😉
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thilo.molitor
Thunderbird does not support stream management or mam and therefore suffers from message loss in both directions...
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thilo.molitor
IMHO Thunderbird should either fix/modernize their xmpp support or remove xmpp support altogether... Having such a broken client implementation in such widespread software sheds some very bad light onto xmpp as a whole (buggy, unreliable etc.)
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jonas’
(did someone say pidgin?)
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Zash
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jonas’
don't mention g today in my presence
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Zash
(or █talk?) ✏
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edhelas
I never understood why there was chat feature in Thunderbird
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Zash
Zawinski's Law, states: > Every program attempts to expand until it can read mail. Those programs which cannot so expand are replaced by ones which can. Potential corollary: Every email program expands until it has video chat?
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jonas’
edhelas, groupware!
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Zash
edhelas, counter by adding email in Movim!
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edhelas
Zash I've implemented what's next after email
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edhelas
XMPP is the new SMTP
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Zash
Just need event planning / calendar sharing and multi party video calls and shared tasks, then you can take on Outlook! :)
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jonas’
Zash, event planning has been submitted as (proto)xep