XSF Discussion - 2023-01-12

Kev: He will follow-up with a comment btw, would you like to be org admin backup? in case I have issues or have difficulties

Hmm... there's no deleting a user from our wiki? I've created a test account, to see if email generation was still working. I can block the account, but I don't see how I can completely remove it.

I might be hallucinating but wasn't there a cli tool also for mediawiki?

(on the server that is)

Oh that might very well be the case. I'm only using the web interface.

I think deleting users is impossible/hard in MediaWiki by design

Not a big deal, but I've added some cruft now.

You can change/remove stuff like the email address and credentials, and block

Nobody will notice :)

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

only can only be deleted directly in the database, there are no admin poages for it. MediaWiki keeps users forever because content maybe assigned to them. I was struggling with this a lot before

Guus: is is related to the account request for Nicola? He sent me direct messages, just came back to my office

someone here who has access to the MediaWiki box? looks like passwords can be resetted over php commands direrctly: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Resetting_passwords

´# set the password for username 'example' to 'newpassword' php changePassword.php --user=example --password=newpassword´

I have access. Is there a need?

Isn't there a forgot password thing?

there is a user wh wants to apply for membership. AFAIK Guus created the account, but he is not getting any emails. Not the initial email with the temp password, and when he tries to reset the password he is also not getting emails. So not sure if there is a general SMTP problem, or its only related to this users email address

Nicfab is the username

Guus created is this morning

Can look into it in a bit

Alex, does the user, by any chance, have a gmail address? ✏

flow: its not a gmail.com adress, but his address could be hosted in gapps, but I don't know. I can ask

Gentoo's media wiki had also issues sending to gmail, the problem where mail header values which where added by the php mta implementation that google disliked (probably due wordpress spam). see https://bugs.gentoo.org/856757#c20

nicola said self hosted with Mailcow and usually works fine

ok, then it's probably something different and you have to follow the mail hop-by-hop…

Password reset email arrives to me, so rules out breakage from the OS upgrade.

Guus, Alex: Could either of you forward the temporary password to them?

I asked him to join this channel

then he can send you a temp pass in private or exchange mail address

Zash, misread your message, yes I can

Sorry, I was out.

I also just resetted my pass and Email works for me

Yeah worked for me too.

Alex, sent you in PM

Thanks Alex/Zash

mail shows up in SPAM, but that a different issue ;-)

but the user checked his SPAM folders

anyway, send him the temp pass, and he hopefully can login now and apply. Thanks for your fast help Zash

Does it say why (it goes in spam)?

Thanks for picking this up Alex.

I was at the dentist early in my AM, otherwise I could have picket it up earlier 🦷

He just conformed that login works now and the temp pass was changed

🎉️

is nobody else (aside from the people already on the wiki) intending to go to the summit?

or is everyone just waiting for the location to be confirmed?

Unfortunately, I have to skip summit and FOSDEM this year too :( But hopefully I'll be able to join you next year again!

I am trying to make it. Still need to work on a schedule for it and also with my family. Sadly my new year started with COVID and messed all my schedules

Maybe we won't need a room the size of Cisco...

> Maybe we won't need a room the size of Cisco... that's kinda the question behind the question

it's fine if people for whatever reasons don’t want to go. but if cisco falls through as an option (?) it would be good to have an idea of how many people actually want to go

in previous years people often only added themselves last minute to the wiki. but that makes planning a little difficult

Post to the list?

i think emus posted like ~10 emails over the past month. I don’t think my post will add anything to that

I see only one.

I thought there were some in December, but those are from 2020

Daniel, assume 2x as many and go from there?

Or check at what times people added themselves in the past, graph it, compare to the current trend...

> Daniel, assume 2x as many and go from there? yes that's fair I guess

Zash, Daniel: Its on the list twice I believe + calls here and media

but in general, I follow that communication was not done well and we should have organised earlier

I suggest 6 months ahead for next year

I don’t think the communication (in terms of invites) are the problem

Daniel: but?

> is nobody else (aside from the people already on the wiki) intending to go to the summit? If there is a remote participation option like there has sometimes been I will plan to be on that

> Daniel: but? I don’t think there is a single reason. Covid being a big one probably. if not worried about getting sick it's the general uncertainty around travel

i've seen plenty of people not wanting to go to fosdem either this year

I think if you want to get a reasonable chance of people replying, saying “please me me or the list saying you’re hoping to come” might be more effective. I, at least, haven’t been intending adding my name to the wiki until I’ve booked and am confirmed going, and I’m holding off booking to see if the promised hotel decision materialises.

I do think that 6 months in advance is a good aim, if it can be managed. This year it feels like everything is later than usual.

Daniel, added myself, sorry I hadn’t done it earlier.

Daniel: thanks for the info

> Kev: > 2023-01-12 03:25 (GMT+01:00) > I do think that 6 months in advance is a good aim, if it can be managed. This year it feels like everything is later than usual. I think arranging arround - topics - maybe even a general motto - ideas etc it makes sense. It also makes sense to gain momentum. At the point an event like fosdem is announces and get closer we are ready to book, not start planning. I did very well with this last GSoC and I am trying again. The early bird