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Trung
As the new guy, my gratitue goes to the people who have voted for letting me “officially” be part of the XMPP community. To the people who voted agaisnt me: 😊 With this title, hopefully I will have a better chance of spreading this interesting sounding protocol in my nation. No promise.
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Trung
oh and special thanks to Alex who help me out on setting up that wiki page!
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neox
Trung: feel.welcomed 😊✎ -
neox
Trung: feel wellcomed 😊 ✏
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MSavoritias (fae,ve)
welcome :D
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neox
Trung: feel welcomed 😊 ✏
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Hugo
Gajim can play mp3, but not wav. And Monal can play wav, but not mp3. I guess neither has a bug really, but voice clips are not close to being feasible :c
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Zash
Interoperability \o/
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Guus
We must invent a new media format to replace them all. <insert appropriate XKCD link here>
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Peter Waher
That’s why you have multi-format audio, video and img tags in HTML5 by comparison, to allow the recipient to choose the format they support (best). cf. our earlier discussion about sending messages containing multiple formats, allowing the recipient to choose the format they best support. Also: We should assume formats and support for formats evolve and change over time. So, instead of fixing a specific format, a loosely coupled abstraction layer would be nice.
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Zash
We might have some codec recommendations in the context of Jingle somewhere, dunno if those are considered for OOB'd audio clips
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Zash
Is .wav even compressed?
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L29Ah
there is compressed .wav but you'd better consider it's not
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Zash
https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0266.html
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L29Ah
no AAC :O
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L29Ah
ah it's for voice
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Zash
> Version 1.1rc1 (2013-03-01) release candidate? for a decade?
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singpolyma
> We must invent a new media format to replace them all. <insert appropriate XKCD link here> Already done, it's called opus ↺
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jonas’
opus? for video? :>
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Zash
ITYM ogg?
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jonas’
ogg is a container
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MattJ
I think you meant MP4
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singpolyma
jonas’: the context was audio clips. But opus is used for the audio track of webm video yes
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MattJ
Nerd sniping is so easy here
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singpolyma
Video or much closer to universal than it used to be, but opus for audio has better adoption than any single video codec✎ -
singpolyma
Video is much closer to universal than it used to be, but opus for audio has better adoption than any single video codec ✏
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Kev
So we're talking about Vorbis, right?
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singpolyma
lol, I don't think anyone is ever talking about vorbis
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Zash
You're talking about Vorbis right now! :D
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Kev
Quick, no-one think about a pink elephant.
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Guus
ah, reading up on Vorbis made me aware that it has a relation to XMPP through Jack Moffitt
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Kev
Indeed :)
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Guus
TIL. Got to keep up for that eventual title of TriviaL Pursuit Conquering Hero Extraordinaire
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Guus
(If learning about a decade old fact qualifies as 'keeping up')
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moparisthebest
Opus is a good choice for voice, but mp3 is free now and ok, wav... That's just a huge waste of bandwidth for no reason
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singpolyma
Voice, music (if lossy is ok), anything. That's why it's so popular
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moparisthebest
And if you don't want lossy then flac
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singpolyma
Yup
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Zash
I hear you can put mp3 into wav. Where is your glob now?
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wurstsalat
> Gajim can play mp3, but not wav. And Monal can play wav, but not mp3. I guess neither has a bug really, but voice clips are not close to being feasible :c it can play wav as well. mime type guessing is a bit awkward though sometimes