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Is the link safe to click? The URL domain tells me it is, the nickname not so much
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it is
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Thanks
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edhelas
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> https://larma.de:5281/upload/nKUu3uHLCS1FC3kM/Screenshot%20from%202023-03-22%2018-35-42.png
type="image/blurhash" ↺
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edhelas, thumbhash is the new hot thing https://evanw.github.io/thumbhash/
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larma: scroll up ;)
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new hot thing? Hype??? I'm opposed!!!!
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Uh that looks nice
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Yeah, I'm considering adding support for it to our existing blurhash support
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it does look quite nice indeed
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ah they were smart about number of components in luma vs. chroma and thus can get more detail in the same space?
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Especially they don't have the issue of random oversaturation that i super annoying in blurhash ✎
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Especially they don't have the issue of random oversaturation that is super annoying in blurhash ✏
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And: Alpha!
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that make me think, we don't have anything to transmit this kind ot data with XMPP, do we?
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could be nice to have a field for that in XEP-0446
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> <singpolyma> No. I just use a sims thumbnail element with type="image/blurhash"
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Yeah, even if it's a low quality one, it's still a thumbnail
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ah sorry I haven't followed all the discussion. It's fine this way indeed.
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it is yes
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and a data URI inside?
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Yes
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<3
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For blurhash I don't use b64 because it is ascii but I use encode. For thumbhash it is binary so I would use b64 data uri
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then, it could be nice to have this documented somewhere (like XEP-0264), so we're all on the same page.
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sensible
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also sensible
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Just for my understanding. None of these hash mechanism contain aspect ratios, no? So I would always need to include the original file dimensions to render it nicely?
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Daniel, thumbhash does
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Oh interesting
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Thumbhash does, but thumbnail element contains a width and height anyway
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> but thumbnail element contains a width and height anyway
Yes that's fine. I was just thinking about omemo media sharing or what ever that aesgcm xep is called
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moparisthebest
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Nice explanation https://blog.cryptographyengineering.com/2023/03/23/remarks-on-chat-control/
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larma
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thumbhash doesn't really include aspect ratio, you can derive an approximation of the aspect ratio
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larma
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Daniel, the more I think about it, the better I like the idea to just put a XEP-0446 element in the second line of omemo media sharing. If it makes you feel better, you could prefix with `data:text/xml,` 😉
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I could probably get in board with that
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Main reason being that we can also transfer filenames that way (which typically are lost today with omemo file transfers)
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Yes I got that
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I'll need to check if `data:text/xml` is compatible with current Conversations...
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Eventually the solution is SCE right?
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Yes
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