Besides this could be interesting : https://sovereigntechfund.de/en/applications/
Arne
> Selection criteria
>... open implementations of communication protocols ...
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Arne
> Selection criteria
> ... open implementations of communication protocols ...
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emus
Arne: thx, will investigate
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emus
Dear members,
today I got to know of the Sovereign Tech Fund of the German Federal Ministry for Economic Affairs and Climate Action. I think this is a very valuable fund and can really support XMPP on a holistic basis and I would strong advocate to apply for it. Below I will call for your input.
https://sovereigntechfund.de/en/applications/
What is it about?
> The Sovereign Tech Fund invests in the development, improvement and maintenance of open digital base technologies worldwide. Applications can be submitted on an ongoing basis.
> The Sovereign Tech Fund invests in open digital base technologies that are vital to the development of other software or enable digital networking. We invest in projects that benefit and strengthen the open source ecosystem. Examples include libraries for programming languages, package managers, open implementations of communication protocols, administration tools for developers, digital encryption technologies, and more.
> The activities listed in the application must be related to developing or maintaining open digital base technologies. Development is our primary focus, although security audits, conference attendance, and other community-based events can be included in the application should they be necessary.
I think this very much suits XMPP as a protocol. Within this context I would like to call for your ideas what we can fund with it (150.000 EUR minimum). As said it can be about writing XEPs, but also conferences, infrastructure, events and participation of conferences. Highly worth to give this a try.
So, what can you think of?
https://pad.nixnet.services/K-DVXLFUSxaF4liewf0Smw
Cheers
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moparisthebest
$150k pays for a lot of XEPs
moparisthebest
Infinity XEPs if my math based on cost per XEP up to now is correct
L29Ah
how many XEPs do we need to take over the world?
emus
that money is quickly spent, believe me 🙂
I would also apply for rather 500.000 EUR
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emus
its not only about xep
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Seve
Curious to see how the application looks like, if you need a well defined plan on how to spend it, etc.. But sounds great!
emus
To create such a plan please put all your wet dreams into the pad
emus
if we really require it
Seve
Extended a bit, will keep adding more as I get to think about it 🙂
emus
perfect!
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Arne
I think the chances are high for the XSF
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moparisthebest
Without drastically expanding what the XSF does in ways that have been proposed and rejected before I can't think of a single thing (or multiple things) we could use anywhere near that much money for, but looking forward to reading suggestions from others :)
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L29Ah
put all the wet dreams into gpt4 for it to produce the grant application
L29Ah
we could expand XSF to include a reference implementation for XMPP IM, that seems like a de facto way to produce protocols these days, no? ;)
emus
sending one dev to a conference can cost 6000€
emus
L29Ah - if you think its meaningful put it on the lsit
L29Ah
how many XEPs does a dev at a conference produce?
emus
3.14
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moparisthebest
> we could expand XSF to include a reference implementation for XMPP IM, that seems like a de facto way to produce protocols these days, no? ;)
That's been proposed before, I think literally everyone was against it, for example
Zash
How many XEPs would a dev dev if devs dev'd XEPs?
moparisthebest
(imagine picking one reference implementation without pissing off a substantial % of XSF members)
L29Ah
yeah i expected this
L29Ah
maybe a libxmpp then?
moparisthebest
In rust right?
L29Ah
oh right
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moparisthebest
But then all the other lang devs will be sad
emus
> moparisthebest:
> 2023-03-27 10:34 (GMT+02:00)
> (imagine picking one reference implementation without pissing off a substantial % of XSF members)
proposing is different that deciding
L29Ahproposes Haskell with a C compatibility API
emus
just do it. also think if what xeps we need to rivse and a significant amount of people will support it
Zash
mod_rest?
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Arne
emus: I could help writing a good text for the application. I would suggest adding all ideas together and the current state with all it's possibilities. Also mentioning where and for what it is and can be used. This
> (imagine picking one reference implementation without pissing off a substantial % of XSF members)
would be avoided then