XSF Discussion - 2023-04-07

emus: not that many. I think I have a couple hundred of the XMPP logo stickers.

Guus: would you mind to send me about 50 for the sprint in june in a letter? I can pay the postal costs

I have ~80 that I can bring.

We should probably just print some more. International shipping is annoying

Okay that would be fine. but do you think we need more than 80?

Yes, let's print some instead of shipping them. You can't have enough stickers ;) I can come up with some designs

Print moar!

wurstsalat, that would be great!

> Okay that would be fine. but do you think we need more than 80? For a sprint. The people who usually come to these things don't need stickers

I am happy to send them. I can also see if I can reorder them, but with a different shipping address

It probably makes most sense to ship them to someone that's either central, or is expected to be at many events where they're to be handed out.

That would be me

ah sorry

maybe not per se

You're as good as anyone, in my book. Doesn't need to be limited to one person either.

I don't think I need to be a bottleneck here. Anyone can order those stickers: https://www.stickermule.com/item/2421090c47beca439cbeea404779d5ec (i'm not sure how long this URL will be valid)

ok, lets get us new designs and I will order

as for reimbursement: SCAM has a (limited) budget.

i know

thx

Re Sticker Mule, I haven't found a good replacement yet, but their CEO did sponsor Trump's campaign.. Just dropping this here

So, if you check with SCAM / Treasurer, you can work out how to get reimbursed

Guus: Yes I will

Sticker Mule is were we got all batches from this design - so if we want them to be identical, that's probably the best bet. I am in no way married to them. Then again, I'm not sure if excluding companies based on political preference of their owner is something that I want to get into, as an org.

(I have no clue to what extend this holds - there's a line somewhere obviously)

also: are you sure about the affiliation in the first place, pep.? From a quick Google, I find a stink about this on reddit, but also people that claim that it has been disproved - but nothing conclusive either way.

There was a whole Twitter thread at the time

Linking to the original posts

> I'm not sure if excluding companies based on political preference of their owner is something that I want to get into, as an org. I would, for sure, even? especially? as an org.

> Sticker Mule is were we got all batches from this design - so if we want them to be identical, that's probably the best bet. I am in no way married to them. Then again, I'm not sure if excluding companies based on political preference of their owner is something that I want to get into, as an org. Yes and I'm not gonna go down this road personally.

There's a huge difference between 'owner of org made a personal contribution of $500 dollars to a mainstream political party that I don't like" and "org produces weapons of mass destruction, handing them out for free to children"

_there is no ethical consumption under capitalism_

Ok I'll just say I disagree with this statement and I won't dwelve on whether Trump is just another "mainstream political party"

This would probably be governed by the CoC imo. If an organization we collaborate with does something that is against the CoC then we shouldnt collaborate. Simple as that

^

xep publishing has gone stale (no offence)... email server broken (no offence)... but lets discuss sticker vendors and CoC. I'm out for today (and for the next days anyway 🛤️)

emus, I can help you with stickers, not so much with the other stuff. :)

emus, email server is actively being fixed

sure, but let me follow-up with other stuff first

> jonas’: > 2023-04-07 11:48 (GMT+02:00) > emus, email server is actively being fixed I know, was just a step back looking at where we are as organisation fight currently with

different people have different strengths ✏

just because thing A is broken doesn't mean that people who don't have the skills to work on thing A must hold still.

I didn't wanted to say that

different people focus on different stuff. volunteers and all that

Yeah, I see that