XSF Discussion - 2023-04-11


  1. Abdul

    I am not sure if this is the right place to ask. Please let me know if it is. Anyway, does there exist any XEP for creating polls for group chats?

  2. Daniel

    Abdul, yes this is the right place. Iā€™m not aware of any. depending on what you want to build you might be able to reuse reactions (simple up/down votes) or build something new with data-forms

  3. emus

    Abdul: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0004.html https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0444.html

  4. Abdul

    > Daniel: > Abdul, yes this is the right place. Iā€™m not aware of any. depending on what you want to build you might be able to reuse reactions (simple up/down votes) or build something new with data-forms I was enquiring because I was going to request for creating polls in Conversations and monocles chat. But reactions are a good way to poll. Anyway, I have no background in programming.

  5. emus

    search for reference implementations via https://xmpp.org/software/software-comparison/

  6. emus

    ok

  7. Ge0rG

    tmolitor: > Upgrade task names SHOULD have a prefix of "UPGR-" (to distinguish them from "normal" SASL mechanisms) Is there a technical reason for that? From reading the XEP the upgrade task name is always inside an <upgrade> element, so no confusion is possible, and to me, `<upgrade xmlns='urn:xmpp:sasl:upgrade:0'>SCRAM-SHA-512</upgrade>` has a more natural flow

  8. flow

    plus, you don't overload IANA registry territory

  9. emus

    *Elbe-Sprint Hamburg 2023* Dear developers & community, I am communicating this already, but I still need to get a final confirmation. So if you can please wait with bookings, but feel free to sign up. If you want to join, but don't got a wiki account ask me or others for a favor to do so (atm better ask others, as I am traveling šŸ™) https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Sprints/2023-06_Elbe-Sprint_Hamburg https://jabbers.one:5281/file_share/RD3geQ-OCYRKE1_6I0Hzweoe/elbe-sprint.png

  10. Zash

    The mailing lists, they're alive!

  11. wurstsalat

    šŸ§Ÿā€ā™‚ļø

  12. wurstsalat

    That's a good thing. Thanks to the people involved!

  13. emus

    šŸŽ‰šŸŽ‰

  14. Zash

    theTedd, was it implied that it's ok for me to do https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/1282 ? (because I just did)

  15. tmolitor

    Ge0rG: yes, the upgrade tasks are used as task names and this is something different than a task doing additional SCRAM-SHA-512 authentication, for example). Imagine a SASL-EXTERNAL auth followed by a SCRAM-SHA-512 SASL2 task for additional authentication. Naming the upgrade task "SCRAM-SHA-512", too, would create a name clash. In general you just aren't as flexible as with this extra prefix. Additionally I made the prefix to have exactly the same length as the -PLUS suffix used for channel binding auth-methods to not introduce some length problems, should these upgrade tasks some day be standardized by the IETF TLDR; yes, they are needed, because a name clash with other SASL2 tasks could occur and in general make the protocol more flexible.

  16. tmolitor

    ``` <continue xmlns='urn:xmpp:sasl:2'> <tasks> <task>UPGR-SCRAM-SHA-256</task> </tasks> </continue> ```

  17. theTedd

    Zash, it was for _Someone_ šŸ‘

  18. mjk

    well, now _Someone_ can't do it because of you Zash!

  19. theTedd

    today, Zash is a Someone!

  20. Zash

    I'll try to be Somebody tomorrow then.

  21. theTedd

    šŸ„‡