XSF Discussion - 2023-08-24

  1. kurisu

    probably a silly question what's the point of https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0371.html over https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/jingle-sdp.html ? The contents of <jingle ...> are apparently just a different, xml-based syntax for sdp with no added value? Even the xep itself lists the original sdp syntax equvalences. So what's the point of coming up with this new xml syntax?

  2. singpolyma

    to make it native and easier to parse without an sdp parser? of course if one if using libwebrtc this doesn't help, but for some stacks it can

  3. singpolyma

    If we were designing from scratch today I'm not sure if we'd just give up and use sdp or not, but certainly at the time libwebrtc was just a glimmer in no one's eye

  4. kurisu

    Makes sense, thanks

  5. Alex

    A reminder that we have our member meeting today. If you have not voted yet on the applicants then please take some time and talk to Memberbot. Thanks

  6. jonas’

    Alex, thanks for the reminder, done!

  7. Zash


  8. pep.

    Could memberbot send a reminder maybe to members that haven't voted yet? Like a month before, a week before, a day before

  9. Zash

    It's open source, so sure ;)

  10. pep.

    If that was a nudge for me to do it, I'm not a member anymore and I have no interest in being one again :P

  11. pep.

    If that was a nudge for me to do it, I'm not a member anymore and I have no interest in becoming one again :P

  12. Zash

    I don't see how that's a blocker

  13. pep.


  14. kurisu

    I'm working with a library which I need to feed sdp strings is there like some test suite somewhere perhaps that I could use to ensure the correctness of my translation from https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0371.html to the sdp format?

  15. Alex

    I am preparing for our member meeting. Will be ready shortly

  16. Seve


  17. Alex


  18. Alex bangs the gavel

  19. Alex

    here is our agenda for today: https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Meeting-Minutes-2023-08-24

  20. Alex

    1) Call for Quorum

  21. Alex

    as you can see 40 members voted via proxy, so we have a quorum

  22. Alex

    2) Items Subject to a Vote

  23. Alex

    New and Returning member, you can see all applications here: https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Membership_Applications_Q3_2023

  24. Alex

    3) Opportunity for XSF Members to Vote in the Meeting

  25. Alex

    any members here who have not voted yet and want to do so now? Memberbot is still online for this

  26. Alex

    OK, none

  27. Alex

    then I will shutdown the bot and start working on the results

  28. Alex

    4) Announcement of Voting Results

  29. Alex

    when you reload the page at: https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Meeting-Minutes-2023-08-24#Announcement_of_Voting_Results you can see the results

  30. Alex

    all applicants and reappliers were accepted. Congrats to everyone and welcome to Trevor to the XSF

  31. stpeter

    Hi Alex, thanks as always for managing the XSF’s elections!!! I really appreciate it.

  32. Alex


  33. Alex

    5) Any Other Business?

  34. Alex

    looks like there is none

  35. stpeter

    Nope. :-)

  36. Alex

    6) Formal Adjournment

  37. Alex

    I motion that we adjourn

  38. stpeter


  39. Alex


  40. Alex bangs the gavel

  41. Alex

    stpeter: is webUI for mailman up again?

  42. Seve

    Thank you Alex! Also thank you everyone that took time for voting 🙂

  43. Alex

    otherwise I may need you help for the 2 changes to the list

  44. mdosch

    Thanks Alex, welcome Trevor. :)

  45. MSavoritias fae.ve

    Thank you 🎉

  46. stpeter

    Alex: not yet! But I can make changes at the command line.

  47. stpeter

    Send me an email about and I will complete the task today or tomorrow.

  48. Alex

    great, should I send an email?

  49. Alex

    but they are visible here: + Trevor - Yvo

  50. stpeter

    OK. What is Yvo’s email address?

  51. stpeter

    I found it at https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Yvo_Meeres_Application_2022

  52. Alex

    ya, probably the one listed there

  53. Alex

    in the webUI I always add names as well which helps with searching people

  54. stpeter

    Right. I can do that from the command line, too.

  55. root

    > all applicants and reappliers were accepted. Congrats to everyone and welcome to Trevor to the XSF Thanks :)

  56. root

    > Thanks Alex, welcome Trevor. :) Thanks :)

  57. Kev

    Thanks Alex.

  58. nicoco_

    Alex: merci beaucoup ❤️

  59. stpeter

    Alex: done on the mailman updates.

  60. Zash

    Thanks Alex

  61. Alex

    Thanks Peter