XSF Discussion - 2023-11-06

The XMPP Newsletter https://fosstodon.org/@xmpp/111362401513150739 https://xmpp.org/2023/11/the-xmpp-newsletter-october-2023/

emus: I think the video link is broken? It points to https://www.youtube.com/@Denshi for me

Yeah, the link should probably point to https://denshi.live/w/9QQmSySkyNC4hWzco1rALq

emus: I think the passage about Monocles is a bit unclear.

Monocles 1.7.5 is available on F Droid. Monocles 1.7.7 is available as a separate Codeberg Release and is not releases on F Droid yet. The round avatar option is only available in 1.7.7. I think someone redesigned the text shortly before it has been published.

Additionally, as a reader, it would be unclear to me why a final Release of 1.8 is mentioned when 1.7.7 is a release and already contains the features mentioned.

I'll fix those later. Axel R. you posted about 10 links to individual releases. I'd prefer to link to a single changelog instead, but I found none. The text containing 10 different release links was unreadable. Sorry that my edits missed those details. ✏

cal0pteryx: Hi. Thanks for the info, but I did not post the text about monocles.

:) sorry for assuming that. I'll update the post later

Español?

nicoco: so this does no work? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GurbaZzwYvU

Was there any XMPP or RT devroom accepted? It should be officially published by now, but I don't see anything on Fosdem website.

Saul tweeted this morning that the RT devroom got accepted.

great

emus: the link you posted here works, but the newsletter link points to the ‘channel’ of Denshi instead of this specific video

ok

Who is currently taking care of https://xmpp.org/software I am asking because I do not know who to contact if I find mistakes.

Axel R. https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/blob/master/data/software.json is where it’s defined. I think PRs are welcome 😊

The list of supported XEP list is defined in the repo of each software, eg https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/blob/master/data/gajim.doap

Axel R.: ask away, I'm all ears :)

cal0pteryx: - Monal does support Calls only on iOS not on MacOS since Callkit is not available - UWPX is not maintained anymore afaik - blabber did not receive updates for a long time and might be an app to remove sooner or later...

nicoco: thanks, I will have a look at it.

Axel R.: usually one needs to update the doap file

see monal.repo

For unmaintained software, we would need to add a "maintained" True/False flag. I think for Blabber it's not entirely clear yet (but mostly).

Regarding Monal and per-platform support for different protocol extensions: this is not something we can pull from a client's soap file I think

What is even "maintained"? Can it really be boiled down to a boolean?

DOAP, not soap

Why add a flag instead of just remove them?

MSavoritias fae.ve: that's not how it's done on xmpp.org/software There is a "legacy" section for all software ever listed

maintained or not is indeed hard to fit into a boolean

The legacy section you mean without a doap?

At the bottom

yes

Noted.

Didn't we switch to doap to avoid having to worry about implementations being outdated?

We can still worry if we like, it's just Somebody Else's Problem ;)

I just have started Memberbot for our annual board & council voting. When you are a XSF member then feel free to talk to Memberbot and cast your votes.

👍

Alex: can you write to the members mail? Do we have the functionallity that the member bot write to them?

The mail is coming in some minutes

I just use Email templates in my mail client

If Alex ever gets tired of doing this we are done for 😅

I've had emails from members-bounces saying that I can't receive emails. Anyone got ideas on how to diagnose that? Other deliverability seems good.

Crazy, Martin voted faster than myself this time ;-)

😇

The bot messaged me, so I started voting.

🚀

The bot messages you?

Bot needs votes!

Does the bot announce with a message that it desires votes?

Not me ever

usually not, I assume he has a scripts that starts the chat on presence or smth similar

Fishbowler: for anything maillinglist related (its UI is b0rked at the moment), I think you need manual intervention from stpeter or mattj

ah ok. FOMO averted.

misidentified PEP notification?

It would be great to expand the bot capabilities

Seems I have sent it a message after the last voting period and it replied to me after receiving the message on startup.

Reminds me of https://pbfcomics.com/comics/post-apocalyptic/

okay, from offline message then

> Seems I have sent it a message after the last voting period and it replied to me after receiving the message on startup. Life hack ↺

^^