XSF Discussion - 2023-11-15

Could someone share the notes from the event last night on the mailing list, please? ✏

Hey Kev, the event was an "interactive note" in itself. I will summarize the outcome, I will also share the pad

Ta.

Yet another company "invents" bridges 24 years after XMPP lol https://www.theverge.com/2023/11/14/23960516/nothing-chats-imessage-android-phone

> By design, open source software is distributed in nature. There is no central authority to ensure quality and maintenance and by putting that responsibility on Sunbird, development would not be feasible. Open source vulnerabilities typically stem from poorly written code that leave gaps, which attackers can use to carryout malicious activities. 🤔

> Yet another company "invents" bridges 24 years after XMPP lol https://www.theverge.com/2023/11/14/23960516/nothing-chats-imessage-android-phone Yet but This Time Its Different ™ ↺

bluh

But this time it makes the chat bubbles a different color!!!

I'm not sure we can really claim that Jabber was the first group to think about bridging network protocols :)

You can claim anything, everyone else does :)

When entity A requests presence subscription to entity B that promptly rejects the request, is it expected for entity B's roster to contain an item for entity A (of subscription state 'None')?

Sounds right to me, without checking 6121

Just been considering this from A's perspective. They start with nothing. They add B (and have state None). They request presence (now None + Pending Out) §3.1.4 says rejection is dealt with like Cancelling, in §3.2, sending an unsubscribed. §3.2.2 point 2 says that A doesn't get an unsubscribe because they're in None + Pending Out. It's unclear if the rest of §3.2.2 applies, and puts B's entry in A's roster back to None, but probably. If so, the Appendix A is incorrect, which says that None means that neither have requested presence yet. If not, then A is left in limbo, never knowing if the B dealt with the approval request.

Dear all, please remember to list your name if you plan to participate the XMPP Summit 26 https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Conferences/Summit_26#Summit_Participants This is a great support for the organsiers.

Today MattJ and me have been hosted at the Linux Inlaw podcast and spoke about the XMPP history & universe. Looking forward to the release (may take some time)

emus, that's great! :)

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When asking about the Jabber <> XMPP thing I made a joke that twitter now is also X so why is our abbreviation a problem 💆🏻‍♂️