XSF Discussion - 2024-02-12

MIX is just what soon became a Frankensteinian that with good reason will never see the light

indeed

that's sad

deport: why?

I'm sure a decent amount of time and effort went into making the standard

Well and some implementations of it exist and I guess those feel they are getting value from it

We have some standards that lots of effort went into with zero implementations still. Those are maybe sadder, from that PoV

I just mean that it's sad that any standard would end up being unused, not that I think they should be used simply because they exist.

I guess it's a gamble to create one

that's fair

Yes, for sure it is. Helps to get implementations and buy in before drafting I think, but some people prefer to work the other way around

I was wondering what the range of the drafting process might be. How do people do it outside working in private?

Well, a draft can be submitted to the XSF inbox as soon as it is ready for outside input

it doesn't have to be assigned a xep number until it's ready

and can easily be discussed here and on list etc

that's one way

of course any online pad or whatever could also be used for early drafting

to be clear, I'm not planning to create one

I just wonder if people usually talk about it before putting a lot of work into it

I think usually, but it's hard to say for sure. sometimes things just appear in the inbox heh

lol, I can imagine that happening

I have wiki pages about stuff that I may draft XEPs about someday, to document what I'm doing and let others try it out etc

Does anyone know if we have bibxml for Internet Drafts for XEPs still? I know we used to, but it's not in the IETF's bibxml service.

Can't find any trace of 'bibxml' anywhere. Does https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0045.html#appendix-biblatex help?

Doesn't seem to. No matter, I can write it all out by hand.