XSF Discussion - 2024-03-23

Hello everyone, it has been brought to my attention that on https://xmpp.org/community/channels/operators/ there is a link to the bad and dangerous part of the internet known as xmpp:conversations-offtopic-reloaded@conference.trashserver.net?join and furthermore this link is labeled as a suggestion of a place to go, rather than surrounded by warnings. While I'm not sure how anyone finds this page or if it is much linked to, still being on xmpp.org taints the reputation of the XSF and it would be my opinion to be remove it ASAP

ew as someone conscripted to moderate that chat I agree 🤣 maybe just link sjn ?

yes, sjn would be sensible to link there if that is desired I think

I doubt anyone has ever found it via that page though

but offtopicreloaded is not a place we want to send anyone

at least one person did, that is how I was made aware of this

Wow who?

I believe you know them as "☭Mike Yellow"

Not "Licaon kter"?

Often advertised in Conversations muc.

that is not an XSF related space and I have no presence there, so unrelated

https://draugr.de/upload/00f530bb49b4e1685114d28f8bb6fb44b2fcbc2f/Boy1DDz5OihSCWBs2XQfW6YbL7EWpwgJFG3bDutl/zb2rhoQPc76smTNwYfbH3NM6644aKV2enqDkQT3AHDMo38Twe.jpg

Xmpp really gotta work on QoS tbh

Oh right I seriously doubt Mike yellow found it that way, he was in Conversations talking about communism and I'd bet money licaon told him to take it to offtopic

kurisu: in what way

See pic

That webpage is linked in xmpp Service Operators muc description, I believe

Well then one of his "users" did and he's complaining on their behalf

So he's after freedom for all Chinese but only to visit the MUCs he approves? 🤣 I like the new Chinese guy

Yeah, I have no specific interest in whatever his reasons are, but for my own stated reason think we should remove the link

Yep I agree regardless

I have to ask if having someone who represents XSF be moderator of that muc also implies endorsement by XSF, and that the moderator is acting in official capacity there?

> Well then one of his "users" did and he's complaining on their behalf > new Chinese guy I am no one's "users", but It may have been me, actually. They asked where to have political discussion. They were also warned when referred. I can't put finger on where. ↺

could this chatroom have blocked access to mam?

messages didn't load when i joined

for this account anyway

The logs are online anyway, taba .

you keep trying to evade local block in co2 to spam

why should i care about your ropinion

Lmao

plus i think you're morph

plus skill issue

Actually is message archive supposed to be loaded from the chatroom server or from the user's server? ✏

the latter

only http stuff starts new connections as far as i know

> I have to ask if having someone who represents XSF be moderator of that muc also implies endorsement by XSF, and that the moderator is acting in official capacity there? Of course not, that's silly no? No one "represents XSF" either ↺

chief executive xmpperson of xmpp

> Hello everyone, it has been brought to my attention that on https://xmpp.org/community/channels/operators/ there is a link to the bad and dangerous part of the internet known as xmpp:conversations-offtopic-reloaded@conference.trashserver.net?join and furthermore this link is labeled as a suggestion of a place to go, rather than surrounded by warnings. While I'm not sure how anyone finds this page or if it is much linked to, still being on xmpp.org taints the reputation of the XSF and it would be my opinion to be remove it ASAP singpolyma: i disagree. just get mods to do literally anything (impossible)

> the latter So if the connection between your server and the chatroom server goes down, is your server supposed to query the chatroom server for message history? ✏ ↺

>> the latter > So if the connection between your server and the chatroom server goes down, is your server supposed to query the chatroom server for message history? kurisu: i hope so ↺

taba:

oops. this is misstyping sorry about that

>> the latter > So if the connection between your server and the chatroom server goes down, is your server supposed to query the chatroom server for message history? Skimming through the mam xep I don't see a mention of such. But it it were NOT the case I would be out of words. ↺

>> So if the connection between your server and the chatroom server goes down, is your server supposed to query the chatroom server for message history? > kurisu: i hope so No, your client is, not your server ↺

Your server is completely unaware of what remote rooms you have joined

singpolyma: Found it elsewhere. They asked: >> Do you have any recommendations for chat rooms with unlimited topics? > Honestly, none, but if you search jabber you may find many off topic ones. What a shame, I still want to communicate with people from all over the world. Also great about political philosophy or just life. And were told: > Almost anything goes here, but prepare for disappointment. > link to conversations-offtopic-reloaded

Someone also quoted the war criminals warning from muc description.

Lol that's because a notorious troll claimed that moderating channels was a war crime, linked citations and everything, was hilarious

wait, what were his sources?

> Lol that's because a notorious troll claimed that moderating channels was a war crime, linked citations and everything, was hilarious moparisthebest: i wonder who could that troll be......... (opinionplatform.org) ↺

It was morph

yes...

> Actually is message archive supposed to be loaded from the chatroom server or from the user's server? From chatroom server. Generally groupchat messages don't go into your server's archive ✏ ↺