XSF Discussion - 2024-08-05


  1. steven

    edhelas, I never understood the difference 😀

  2. steven

    Atom feeds are called RSS feeds as well, no?

  3. edhelas

    Nope

  4. Zash

    Depends on who you ask 🤣️

  5. steven

    Yeah I thought RSS was the bucket name and Atom was just some next-gen implementation of the idea

  6. steven

    Same icon, same reader app

  7. edhelas

    https://www.intertwingly.net/wiki/pie/Rss20AndAtom10Compared

  8. edhelas

    > The RSS 2.0 specification is copyrighted by Harvard University and is frozen. No significant changes can be made (although the specification is under a Creative Commons licence) and it is intended that future work be done under a different name; Atom is one example of such work. > Atom 1.0 is specified in [WWW]RFC 4287 ([WWW]HTML Version); it represents the consensus of the [WWW]Atompub Working Group within the [WWW]IETF, as reviewed and approved by the IETF community and the [WWW]Internet Engineering Steering Group. The specification is structured in such a way that the IETF could conceivably issue further versions or revisions of this specification without breaking existing deployments, although there is no commitment, nor currently expressed interest, in doing so.

  9. edhelas

    Atom is indeed a standardized evolution of RSS. It is clearly and properly defined.

  10. steven

    Copyright, again, really? Didn't expect that?

  11. steven

    Why do loosely organised distributed working groups even have to care about copyright? Anyway, off-topic, apologies 🙂

  12. Zash

    Copyright, ruining everything since 1710

  13. steven

    Exactly! (Interesting, didn't know the Statute of Anne!)

  14. steven

    > Despite a period of instability known as the Battle of the Booksellers when the initial copyright terms under the statute began to expire, the Statute of Anne remained in force until the Copyright Act 1842 replaced it.

  15. steven

    Behold the Disney's of the time 🙂

  16. steven

    The Stationers' Company, the company that pushed for the legislation exists since 1403 and had their first female head elected in 2013. > Once the company received its charter, "the company's role was to regulate and discipline the industry, define proper conduct and maintain its own corporate privileges."

  17. hook

    Oh, and don't forget that copyright (UK, then US) and droit d'auteurs (FR, then most of Europe) have different origins and different foundations. Hence the small, but substantial, differences like moral rights and fair use etc.

  18. steven

    hook, interesting.. do you have some references on that that I could read?

  19. hook

    This is a good start: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authors%27_rights

  20. hook

    steven, if you want more, I’d need to do some research, it’s been a while since I’ve learnt about it and those books likely won’t help you much, since they’re in Slovene.

  21. Steven

    🙏

  22. mcneb10

    whats the deal with muji and multi client calls?

  23. mcneb10

    from what ive heard dino supports them